Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Packers_Finland
14 years ago
I counted it manually, so that should be it.
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porky88
14 years ago
I'll just throw my list out there just to put it on record

Elite
1. Peyton Manning
2. Drew Brees
3. Tom Brady
4. Brett Favre

Outlook: Don't care what order you take em in. These are the elite guys. Their clutch, they elevate the players around them and their talent is impressive.

Upper Echelon
5. Aaron Rodgers
6. Phillip Rivers
7. Ben Roethlisberger
8. Tony Romo
9. Matt Schaub
10. Donovan McNabb
11. Eli Manning

Outlook: Some of these guys are lacking signature wins. In the case of Roethlisberger, he has everything the elite guys have, but his off the field shenanigans are unacceptable. Yeah, that counts today. Overall, you have guys preparing to break through into that elite realm and at the backend; you have guys on their way out of the upper echelon. It's just a matter of when this group begins to separate and go in different directions.

On the Cusp
12. Matt Ryan
13. Joe Flacco
14. Jay Cutler
15. Kevin Kolb

Outlook: My pick for player of the decade will be Matt Ryan. I think he's going to be huge for along time in Atlanta. I've seen enough from Kolb to think he's going to be a pretty good player for along time. Statically, I think he'll be better than McNabb.

Once Upper Echelon, now just a game manager
16. Carson Palmer

Outlook: Injuries have changed Palmer. He manages the game very well. Not the player he once was though. At one time, he was Aaron Rodgers. Just remember that. You never know what can happen.

Replaceable
17. Davis Garrard
18. Jason Campbell
19. Matt Cassell

Outlook: Like the title says. These guys can be replaced.

Overachiever
20. Kyle Orton

Outlook: I dont get how his teams dont have losing seasons.

We'll See
21. Vince Young
22. Matthew Stafford
23. Mark Sanchez
24. Matt Moore
25. Sam Bradford
26. Josh Freeman
27. Alex Smith
28. Chad Henne

Outlook: I believe the jury is still out on quite a few of these players. Vince Young could be Randall Cunningham, but I'm not sure he gets it. Stafford is overrated IMO. I like Sanchez to have a nice career, but we'll see.

Done IMO
29. Matt Hasselbeck
30. Jake Delhomme

Outlook: They should go the Mark Brunnel route and be a backup.

Really! Really!
31. Trent Edwards
32. Matt Leinart
Dexter_Sinister
14 years ago
Ironicly, Cutler and Favre have almost identical stats for the first three years of their careers. Same rating and ints, nearly the same yards. Favre had a better D and run game so he got a few more wins.

Now all the Bears have to do is build the number 1 D and number 1 ST and they will be a lock for the super bowl.

Of course, you could say that about almost any QB. Even T Jack.
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beast (5m) : Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
beast (8h) : Sounds like no serious injuries from the Saints game and Jacobs and Watson should play in the Vikings game
packerfanoutwest (12h) : both games Watson missed, Packers won
Martha Careful (14h) : I hope all of you have a Merry Christmas!
Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : Jacobs was just sat down, Watson re-injured that knee that kept him out 1 game earlier
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : I needed .14 that's. .14 points for the whole 4th quarter to win and go to the SB. Lol
Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Jacobs gonna be OK???
Zero2Cool (24-Dec) : Watson gonna be OK???
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I see what you did there Mucky
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : dammit. 3:25pm
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Yeah baby!
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (23-Dec) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (23-Dec) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (23-Dec) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I literally just said it.
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