Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Packers_Finland
14 years ago
I counted it manually, so that should be it.
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porky88
14 years ago
I'll just throw my list out there just to put it on record

Elite
1. Peyton Manning
2. Drew Brees
3. Tom Brady
4. Brett Favre

Outlook: Don't care what order you take em in. These are the elite guys. Their clutch, they elevate the players around them and their talent is impressive.

Upper Echelon
5. Aaron Rodgers
6. Phillip Rivers
7. Ben Roethlisberger
8. Tony Romo
9. Matt Schaub
10. Donovan McNabb
11. Eli Manning

Outlook: Some of these guys are lacking signature wins. In the case of Roethlisberger, he has everything the elite guys have, but his off the field shenanigans are unacceptable. Yeah, that counts today. Overall, you have guys preparing to break through into that elite realm and at the backend; you have guys on their way out of the upper echelon. It's just a matter of when this group begins to separate and go in different directions.

On the Cusp
12. Matt Ryan
13. Joe Flacco
14. Jay Cutler
15. Kevin Kolb

Outlook: My pick for player of the decade will be Matt Ryan. I think he's going to be huge for along time in Atlanta. I've seen enough from Kolb to think he's going to be a pretty good player for along time. Statically, I think he'll be better than McNabb.

Once Upper Echelon, now just a game manager
16. Carson Palmer

Outlook: Injuries have changed Palmer. He manages the game very well. Not the player he once was though. At one time, he was Aaron Rodgers. Just remember that. You never know what can happen.

Replaceable
17. Davis Garrard
18. Jason Campbell
19. Matt Cassell

Outlook: Like the title says. These guys can be replaced.

Overachiever
20. Kyle Orton

Outlook: I dont get how his teams dont have losing seasons.

We'll See
21. Vince Young
22. Matthew Stafford
23. Mark Sanchez
24. Matt Moore
25. Sam Bradford
26. Josh Freeman
27. Alex Smith
28. Chad Henne

Outlook: I believe the jury is still out on quite a few of these players. Vince Young could be Randall Cunningham, but I'm not sure he gets it. Stafford is overrated IMO. I like Sanchez to have a nice career, but we'll see.

Done IMO
29. Matt Hasselbeck
30. Jake Delhomme

Outlook: They should go the Mark Brunnel route and be a backup.

Really! Really!
31. Trent Edwards
32. Matt Leinart
Dexter_Sinister
14 years ago
Ironicly, Cutler and Favre have almost identical stats for the first three years of their careers. Same rating and ints, nearly the same yards. Favre had a better D and run game so he got a few more wins.

Now all the Bears have to do is build the number 1 D and number 1 ST and they will be a lock for the super bowl.

Of course, you could say that about almost any QB. Even T Jack.
I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
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Mucky Tundra (10-Aug) : With buckeye and the reasonable couple, we're currently sitting at 10
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dfosterf (10-Aug) : Just gotta figure out how.
dfosterf (10-Aug) : Could have been a worse start, so there is that.
beast (10-Aug) : Yeah, someone tell the Packers football season has started, seems like they weren't ready for it
Mucky Tundra (10-Aug) : Sooooooo many penalties
Mucky Tundra (10-Aug) : It may only be preseason, but this game is a trip to the dentist
Zero2Cool (10-Aug) : Packers do bad -- FREAK OUT!!!!!!
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dfosterf (10-Aug) : Well that half was fun
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Mucky Tundra (9-Aug) : THE GREEN BAY PACKERS ARE PLAYING FOOTBALL TONIGHT!!!!!! THIS IS NOT A DRILL!!!!
Zero2Cool (9-Aug) : Woo-hoo
TheKanataThrilla (9-Aug) : NFL Network is broadcasting the game tonight, but not in Canada. Not sure why as no local television is showing the game.
beast (8-Aug) : But the Return from IR designations had to be applied by the 53 man cutdown.
beast (8-Aug) : It's a new rule, so it's not clear, but my understanding was that they could be IR'd at any time
Mucky Tundra (8-Aug) : *had to be IRed at 53
Mucky Tundra (8-Aug) : beast, I thought the designate return from IR players had to be IR at cutdowns to 53, not before
beast (8-Aug) : It's a brand new rule, either last season or this season, prior, all pre-season IRs were done for the season
beast (8-Aug) : But the Packers would have to use one for their return from IR spots on him, when they cut down to 53.
beast (8-Aug) : I think the NFL recently changed the IR rules, so maybe the season might not be over for OL Glover.
Zero2Cool (8-Aug) : Packers star Howton, first NFLPA prez, dies at 95 😔
dfosterf (8-Aug) : Apparently it is too complicated for several to follow your simple instructions, but I digress
dfosterf (8-Aug) : Zero- Did you see what I posted about Voice of Reason and his wife? She posted over at fleaflicker that they are both "In"
Zero2Cool (7-Aug) : Well, not crazy, it makes sense. Crazy I didn't notice/find it earlier
Zero2Cool (7-Aug) : it's crazy how one stored procedure to get data bogged everything down for speed here
dfosterf (7-Aug) : to herd cats or goldfish without a bowl. They reminded me of the annual assembly of our fantasy league
dfosterf (7-Aug) : out on a field trip, outfitting them with little yellow smocks. Most of the little folk were well behaved, but several were like trying
dfosterf (7-Aug) : Yesterday my wife and I spent the afternoon on the waterfront here in Alexandria, Va. A daycare company took about 15 three/four year olds
wpr (7-Aug) : seems faster. yay
dfosterf (7-Aug) : Wife of reason posted on the in/out thread on fleaflicker that both she and vor are in
Zero2Cool (7-Aug) : This page was generated in 0.135 seconds.
Mucky Tundra (7-Aug) : Tbh, I can never tell the difference in speed unless it's completely shitting the bed
Zero2Cool (7-Aug) : Sure does feel like site is more snappy
Zero2Cool (6-Aug) : I thought that was the Lions OL
Mucky Tundra (6-Aug) : Travis Glover placed on IR; seasons over for him
Zero2Cool (6-Aug) : found bad sql in database, maybe site faster now?
dfosterf (5-Aug) : I'm going to call that a good move.
Zero2Cool (4-Aug) : Packers sign CB Corey Ballentine
Zero2Cool (4-Aug) : I'm not sure how to kill the draft order just yet so it's not so confusing.
Mucky Tundra (4-Aug) : *to be able
Mucky Tundra (4-Aug) : and because it's not a dynasty league (which makes a lot more sense to be ability to trade picks)
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