Packers_Finland
14 years ago
My list:

1) Peyton Manning
2) Drew Brees
3) Aaron Rodgers TIED WITH Brett Favre
5) Tom Brady
6) Matt Schaub
7) Tony Romo
8) Philip Rivers
9) Ben Roethlisberger
10) Eli Manning
11) Donovan McNabb
12) Matt Ryan
13) Carson Palmer
14) Joe Flacco
15) Jay Cutler
16) Matt Moore
17) Vince Young
18) David Garrard
19) Kyle Orton
20) Chad Henne
21) Alex Smith
22) Jason Campbell
23) Jake Delhomme
24) Matt Cassell
25) Matt Hasselbeck
26) Matthew Stafford
27) Trent Edwards
28) Josh Freeman
29) Mark Sanchez

Unable to rank the following:

Sam Bradford
Matt Leinart
Kevin Kolb


What do you guys think. Make your own list or just rip me a new asshole for all the mistakes I did.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
I love that you have Mark Sanchez at 29. 😃
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Packers_Finland
14 years ago

I love that you have Mark Sanchez at 29. :D

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



He was/is terrible. His defense and run game completely carried him to the playoffs.
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CDNRodgersfan
14 years ago
Not much wrong with that list. I know I wouldn't trade Rodgers for any of the guys above him though. I might move Rivers up to 4
Dexter_Sinister
14 years ago
I would rank them by their QB rating. Faver is 14th and Rodgers is 1st. Just 'cause I know it drives Faver fans nuts.
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Packers_Finland
14 years ago

I would rank them by their QB rating. Faver is 14th and Rodgers is 1st. Just 'cause I know it drives Faver fans nuts.

"Dexter_Sinister" wrote:



There is something fundamentally wrong with the QB rating though.

Example:

Quarterback A throws 3/3 for 9 yards and the team has to punt.

Quarterback B throws 1/3 for 60 yards and the drive keeps going.

Quarterback A has a higher QB rating.
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Wade
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14 years ago

I would rank them by their QB rating. Faver is 14th and Rodgers is 1st. Just 'cause I know it drives Faver fans nuts.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



There is something fundamentally wrong with the QB rating though.

Example:

Quarterback A throws 3/3 for 9 yards and the team has to punt.

Quarterback B throws 1/3 for 60 yards and the drive keeps going.

Quarterback A has a higher QB rating.

"Dexter_Sinister" wrote:



/on soapbox

That's because statistics are merely "evidence", not fact. To be used, evidence must be weighed, put together with other evidence (as you do here), interpreted.

As long as we remember that QB rating is merely evidence to be weighed, instead of the fact to be determined (i.e. whether quarterback A or B is "better"), it's fine.

I see this all the time. People treat numbers as "objective facts". Almost always, they aren't anything but a particular kind of evidence.

Numbers don't "give" us a conclusion. Our interpretation of their importance does.

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Pack93z
14 years ago
Sanchez = Flacco two years removed..

Sanchez will never be an elite QB IMO... but he will not hold the last position for long.
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Packers_Finland
14 years ago

Sanchez = Flacco two years removed..

Sanchez will never be an elite QB IMO... but he will not hold the last position for long.

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At least Flacco has a cannon arm. And this year he's got some decent weapons too.

Sanchez = Dilfer. At best.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

I would rank them by their QB rating. Faver is 14th and Rodgers is 1st. Just 'cause I know it drives Faver fans nuts.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



There is something fundamentally wrong with the QB rating though.

Example:

Quarterback A throws 3/3 for 9 yards and the team has to punt.

Quarterback B throws 1/3 for 60 yards and the drive keeps going.

Quarterback A has a higher QB rating.

"Dexter_Sinister" wrote:



That makes sense. It's QB Rating, not QB with team rating. That 60 yards doesn't mean the drive keeps going. With the inaccuracy, the next pass could be picked, more likely to happen with B than A.

QB A is west coast offense.
QB B is more raider'esque offense.

The QB Rating is whack though. I won't disagree there.
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