Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Packers_Finland
14 years ago
I counted it manually, so that should be it.
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porky88
14 years ago
I'll just throw my list out there just to put it on record

Elite
1. Peyton Manning
2. Drew Brees
3. Tom Brady
4. Brett Favre

Outlook: Don't care what order you take em in. These are the elite guys. Their clutch, they elevate the players around them and their talent is impressive.

Upper Echelon
5. Aaron Rodgers
6. Phillip Rivers
7. Ben Roethlisberger
8. Tony Romo
9. Matt Schaub
10. Donovan McNabb
11. Eli Manning

Outlook: Some of these guys are lacking signature wins. In the case of Roethlisberger, he has everything the elite guys have, but his off the field shenanigans are unacceptable. Yeah, that counts today. Overall, you have guys preparing to break through into that elite realm and at the backend; you have guys on their way out of the upper echelon. It's just a matter of when this group begins to separate and go in different directions.

On the Cusp
12. Matt Ryan
13. Joe Flacco
14. Jay Cutler
15. Kevin Kolb

Outlook: My pick for player of the decade will be Matt Ryan. I think he's going to be huge for along time in Atlanta. I've seen enough from Kolb to think he's going to be a pretty good player for along time. Statically, I think he'll be better than McNabb.

Once Upper Echelon, now just a game manager
16. Carson Palmer

Outlook: Injuries have changed Palmer. He manages the game very well. Not the player he once was though. At one time, he was Aaron Rodgers. Just remember that. You never know what can happen.

Replaceable
17. Davis Garrard
18. Jason Campbell
19. Matt Cassell

Outlook: Like the title says. These guys can be replaced.

Overachiever
20. Kyle Orton

Outlook: I dont get how his teams dont have losing seasons.

We'll See
21. Vince Young
22. Matthew Stafford
23. Mark Sanchez
24. Matt Moore
25. Sam Bradford
26. Josh Freeman
27. Alex Smith
28. Chad Henne

Outlook: I believe the jury is still out on quite a few of these players. Vince Young could be Randall Cunningham, but I'm not sure he gets it. Stafford is overrated IMO. I like Sanchez to have a nice career, but we'll see.

Done IMO
29. Matt Hasselbeck
30. Jake Delhomme

Outlook: They should go the Mark Brunnel route and be a backup.

Really! Really!
31. Trent Edwards
32. Matt Leinart
Dexter_Sinister
14 years ago
Ironicly, Cutler and Favre have almost identical stats for the first three years of their careers. Same rating and ints, nearly the same yards. Favre had a better D and run game so he got a few more wins.

Now all the Bears have to do is build the number 1 D and number 1 ST and they will be a lock for the super bowl.

Of course, you could say that about almost any QB. Even T Jack.
I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
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dfosterf (12h) : Current cap space 29.6 million.
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beast (11-Mar) : A probably false rumor is suggesting CB Jaire Alexander is being traded to the Ravens, again probably false
beast (11-Mar) : Commanders might have a dominant offense the next 3 years at least
Zero2Cool (11-Mar) : San Francisco 49ers announced they have released DL Leonard Floyd.
Mucky Tundra (11-Mar) : Er getting traded twice like that
Mucky Tundra (11-Mar) : Huh, LT Laremy Tunsil traded from Houston to Washington. Never heard of a top OT getting traded in his career like that
Martha Careful (11-Mar) : Minnesota Vikings cornerback Byron Murphy Jr. is returning on a three-year, $66 million deal
Zero2Cool (11-Mar) : Damn
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