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Wade
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9 years ago
It looks suspicious, sure, but ...

1. I've met people who carry around a couple hundred grand ... high stakes poker players, for example. In my experience an awful lot of even small/medium stake regular players like to carry a large diameter roll of Franklins. I only play for far lower stakes, but even if you want to play a medium stakes $50/$100 NLHE game you're looking at a buy-in of, what, about $10K plus at least an equal amount for rebuys?

IMO, any non-pro (and many pros) who play those stakes, much less the higher ones, is likely to be a loon. But it's his money.

2. People who don't trust banks for another. I have an inlaw who keeps 80K or more as a running balance in a no-interest checking account; and there are people who walk around with a similar amount of bills because they think the banks are Illuminati or whatever. And these are *not* people who have ever had anything approaching a pro football player's cash flow.

3. And, frankly, if I were in one of those two groups, I'd probably have a gun in the car, too.

4. A pound of weed is a lot (and I have no idea what the going street rate is, since I was younger than Rock the last time I had occasion to consider purchasing). But I've known a number of non-dealers who always preferred buying a big bunch at once rather than a dime bag here and a lid there.

Heck I can virtually guarantee that there are students on this campus (or any other) that have that much weed in their closet right now. And they've never sold a single leaf..

5. IIRC, Nate Newton, for example, had far more than a mere pound of weed in his trunk.

I expect the dudes's done with the Packers. And I expect he's going to spend a lot of time getting to know the ins and out of the legal system over the next few years.

But I have far too little information to justify any sort of conclusion that he's a big dealer or anything else that said prosecutorial and police types and tools like Florio might want us to think.
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nerdmann
9 years ago

It looks suspicious, sure, but ...

1. I've met people who carry around a couple hundred grand ... high stakes poker players, for example. In my experience an awful lot of even small/medium stake regular players like to carry a large diameter roll of Franklins. I only play for far lower stakes, but even if you want to play a medium stakes $50/$100 NLHE game you're looking at a buy-in of, what, about $10K plus at least an equal amount for rebuys?

IMO, any non-pro (and many pros) who play those stakes, much less the higher ones, is likely to be a loon. But it's his money.

2. People who don't trust banks for another. I have an inlaw who keeps 80K or more as a running balance in a no-interest checking account; and there are people who walk around with a similar amount of bills because they think the banks are Illuminati or whatever. And these are *not* people who have ever had anything approaching a pro football player's cash flow.

3. And, frankly, if I were in one of those two groups, I'd probably have a gun in the car, too.

4. A pound of weed is a lot (and I have no idea what the going street rate is, since I was younger than Rock the last time I had occasion to consider purchasing). But I've known a number of non-dealers who always preferred buying a big bunch at once rather than a dime bag here and a lid there.

Heck I can virtually guarantee that there are students on this campus (or any other) that have that much weed in their closet right now. And they've never sold a single leaf..

5. IIRC, Nate Newton, for example, had far more than a mere pound of weed in his trunk.

I expect the dudes's done with the Packers. And I expect he's going to spend a lot of time getting to know the ins and out of the legal system over the next few years.

But I have far too little information to justify any sort of conclusion that he's a big dealer or anything else that said prosecutorial and police types and tools like Florio might want us to think.

Originally Posted by: Wade 



It doesn't look good for him.

Shit should be legalized, but I don't think his jury is gonna nullify.
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Wade
  • Wade
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9 years ago

It doesn't look good for him.

Shit should be legalized, but I don't think his jury is gonna nullify.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Well, the burden of proof still lies on the prosecution. Unless there is a statute in question that explicitly states (and does so in a Constitutionally-allowed way) that "$190K and a pound of weed" constitutes sufficient proof of "possession with intent to felony distribute" or some such, the prosecutor must provide the evidence of guilt.

Or should have to. IMO.


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rabidgopher04
9 years ago
Does this mean Guion is not "Packer people?"
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beast
9 years ago

I just complimented this guy in the other thread. Thanks, Guion, for making me look like a moron.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



Well why did you jinx him by giving him the compliment then? 😳 :compress:

:geek:


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Mucky Tundra
9 years ago
Assuming they bring him back, that knocks his salary down from what, 3-3.5 million down to 2 a year?

Edit: Of course that assumes he wasn't distributing
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DakotaT
9 years ago

Does this mean Guion is not "Packer people?"

Originally Posted by: rabidgopher04 



Those free from sin, cast the first stone. ::evil:

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Cheesey
9 years ago
Let's see.....he knows that just USING weed is reason to get suspended. Carrying almost a POUND of the crap around, while possessing a gun?
Proof of being an IDIOT.
I myself am not without sin. But I'll tell you what, if I had a job that paid me hundreds of thousands to MILLIONS of dollars s year, I would not be stupid enough to put that on the line for drugs. And if I did, I wouldn't blame anyone but ME for being that big of an idiot.
If he loses his job (if he did indeed do this) and ends up in prison, all he has to do is look in the mirror to find out who to blame.
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nerdmann
9 years ago

Well, the burden of proof still lies on the prosecution. Unless there is a statute in question that explicitly states (and does so in a Constitutionally-allowed way) that "$190K and a pound of weed" constitutes sufficient proof of "possession with intent to felony distribute" or some such, the prosecutor must provide the evidence of guilt.

Or should have to. IMO.

Originally Posted by: Wade 



LOL

If they can put that weed on him, he's going away. He better have one hell of a lawyer.
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nerdmann
9 years ago

Assuming they bring him back, that knocks his salary down from what, 3-3.5 million down to 2 a year?

Edit: Of course that assumes he wasn't distributing

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



It also assumes he's not going to be imprisoned and/or suspended.
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