sschind
10 years ago

So basically, Guion got busted with a little herb that should already be legalized in this country - if we didn't have such a regressive freak show controlling the country? Now tell me exactly why we shouldn't be resigning this guy that basically saved our season?

NFL players should get to use anything that takes the pain away, and it is pretty pathetic of us couch potato fans to question them.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I doubt he was using all this to take the pain away unless the pain was from an empty wallet. Using is different than selling in my book.

The fact is I am guessing what he was doing or what he was caught with is against league rules (not to mention the law) . Are we going to all of a sudden be all hypocritical and say it shouldn't matter just because it has now happened to a Packer (not saying that about you Dakota, just that some people will make excuses) No doubt many Packers fans willing to sweep this under the rug would be calling this guy a thug if he played for the Seahawks.

To be honest I'm not sure where I come down on this. If its his first offense and he takes what the law and the league dishes out for punishment I'm all for giving him another chance. If it a 4 game or less suspension his new lower price should off set it. If he was selling or distributing though I may feel a little differently. Like I said using is different than selling.

At the very least the man was very very stupid. I think he just cost himself millions of dollars.

Last point about him saving our season. Weren't you one of those who was basically saying if you don't win the super bowl the season was a waste? If not I apologize but if you were then how can you say he saved our season?
nerdmann
10 years ago


Last point about him saving our season. Weren't you one of those who was basically saying if you don't win the super bowl the season was a waste? If not I apologize but if you were then how can you say he saved our season?

Originally Posted by: sschind 



That's true, but Guion played better than expected and it made us competitive. His performance gave us a chance to win it all, and let's face it, the opportunity was there.


“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
DarkaneRules
10 years ago
I cannot help but be pretty apathetic about this overall, but when I saw the picture, I just couldn't help but start laughing.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
DakotaT
10 years ago



Last point about him saving our season. Weren't you one of those who was basically saying if you don't win the super bowl the season was a waste? If not I apologize but if you were then how can you say he saved our season?

Originally Posted by: sschind 



I'm one of those that keeps saying we are just like the Sherman Packers that have been wasting the career of a first ballot hall of famer. I don't think I'll ever be able to go back and watch the 2015 NFC championship game, ever. The coaching and execution problems in that game were off the charts humiliating to Packers fans.

Do you accept the New England Patriots as the best team in the league after we piss throttled them in Lambeau? The score was not indicative of what happened on that field, which seems to be trend with McCarthey coached teams.
Porforis
10 years ago

So basically, Guion got busted with a little herb that should already be legalized in this country - if we didn't have such a regressive freak show controlling the country? Now tell me exactly why we shouldn't be resigning this guy that basically saved our season?

NFL players should get to use anything that takes the pain away, and it is pretty pathetic of us couch potato fans to question them.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



As with everyone else complaining about being busted for something they think isn't a big deal (for the record, I'm with you on marijuana, even though I'm not a user), pretending that you need to agree with society that something is bad and pretending that your personal moral code makes you immune to prosecution if something you think okay is illegal is just silly.

Example. I illegally download movies and TV shows IF they're movies and TV shows that friends and family already own. With my home theater setup it's a lot easier to simply stream it off my server over the network. Or watch things on the go. Etc. I'm not taking money away from anybody as it's something I already have free, legal access to.

That being said, if I ever get a nice letter in the mail informing me I'm being sued, that's the result of me doing something I know is illegal. To me, the reward outweighs the risks. If I lose the lottery, that's the risk I took. I don't pretend to know anything about what Guion does in his personal life but I guarantee you I've done a hell of a lot more for people's lives than "basically saving our season", and even if I did save the Packers season and personally deliver a Lombardi trophy to your house, I wouldn't deserve excuses from you.
PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago
Personally I doubt, Guion is a distributor. I figure he was planning on throwing some type of party. I've seen stories about players and other celebs with parties where there are bowls full of weed around the house like it was potpourri. But I also don't excuse illegal activity. Let the legal system do its thing, and than the league apply what ever punishment it deems necessary.

Than if Ted and Mike and Mark and the rest of the staff talk to him and determine that they are willing to risk giving him an contract, I will trust their judgment.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
nerdmann
10 years ago




“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
musccy
10 years ago
...uh, apparently the term "Packer People'' has become a little more liberal.
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