blueleopard
11 years ago
I know most of the community here will call for Dom Capers head, and while I don't think he should necessarily be fired, today really made me think about what the man really has up his sleeves.

Joe Buck and Troy Aikman were right, Capers has been doing all he can possibly do with a lack of talent. It was already enough to have Matthews and Jolly on the sideline, but it got progressively worse with Sam Shields, arguably our best corner, and Mike Neal leaving.

When we had to re-align to the 4-3, they seemed to get a lot of good pressure against the Niners offensive line--and those guys are huge.

I'm not saying we should go back to the 4-3, but it should at least be a wrinkle. The Patriots run both under Belichick, and Capers was nothing but an advisor there before coming here to take over.

I know what I'm saying won't cause anything to happen, but I must say I liked what I saw when I saw it.
Danreb Victorio A Believer of Greg Jennings
PackFanWithTwins
11 years ago
I would say we should go with an aggressive 4-3. We have the bodies. Matthews and Perry both could play 4-3 LB along with Hawk.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
11 years ago

I know most of the community here will call for Dom Capers head, and while I don't think he should necessarily be fired, today really made me think about what the man really has up his sleeves.

Joe Buck and Troy Aikman were right, Capers has been doing all he can possibly do with a lack of talent. It was already enough to have Matthews and Jolly on the sideline, but it got progressively worse with Sam Shields, arguably our best corner, and Mike Neal leaving.

When we had to re-align to the 4-3, they seemed to get a lot of good pressure against the Niners offensive line--and those guys are huge.

I'm not saying we should go back to the 4-3, but it should at least be a wrinkle. The Patriots run both under Belichick, and Capers was nothing but an advisor there before coming here to take over.

I know what I'm saying won't cause anything to happen, but I must say I liked what I saw when I saw it.

Originally Posted by: blueleopard 



I am. The 3-4 was suppose to be this wonderful alignment that gave capers all this flexibility to blitz from anywhere and to STOP THE RUN by having the LBers come untouched and make the play.

Nothing. I have not seen the 3-4 do anything. The DL disappears for 90% of the game. The LB come running in to the middle of the field to try and get the ball carrier and they leave outside contain go.

Give me 4 fatties to stuff the run and collapse the pocket any day of the week.
UserPostedImage
blueleopard
11 years ago
Actually, with Perry I can almost guarantee Nick Perry would be more effective with his hand on the ground.

RE - Perry
DT - Raji
DT - Boyd
LE - Neal/Datone Jones

OLB - Matthews
MLB - Brad Jones
OLB - Hawk
Danreb Victorio A Believer of Greg Jennings
DakotaT
11 years ago

Actually, with Perry I can almost guarantee Nick Perry would be more effective with his hand on the ground.

RE - Perry
DT - Raji
DT - Boyd
LE - Neal/Datone Jones

OLB - Matthews
MLB - Brad Jones
OLB - Hawk

Originally Posted by: blueleopard 



Replace Raji with Jolly and Boyd with Daniels with Boyd being the 3rd DT and you might be on to something. I would prefer Barrington or some other thumper in the middle though in base defense. Not a big fan of Brad Jones.
UserPostedImage
Mucky Tundra
11 years ago
At this point going to a 4-3 makes sense from a simple draft standpoint. A majority of the league runs the 3-4 now and true players for it have become scarce. Thus we get stuck with an endless amount of conversion projects.
Under Construction!
blueleopard
11 years ago
I think we have the personnel to run either and should run both.

But it's not gonna mean anything if Morgan Burnett is the last line of defense. He needs somebody worth a shit back there helping him.

Whether it's HaHa Clinton-Dix or a free agent, we can't "hope" for a safety. We need to find one right away. Give Buffalo the 2nd round choice they want for Byrd.
Danreb Victorio A Believer of Greg Jennings
PackFanWithTwins
11 years ago

Actually, with Perry I can almost guarantee Nick Perry would be more effective with his hand on the ground.

RE - Perry
DT - Raji
DT - Boyd
LE - Neal/Datone Jones

OLB - Matthews
MLB - Brad Jones
OLB - Hawk

Originally Posted by: blueleopard 



Perry could play either, but I he is more of an upgrade at LB with the bodies we have. Perhaps he could be a pass rusher on pass downs and drop back to LB on run downs. leave run defense to Neal and Jones at DE.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
blueleopard
11 years ago

Perry could play either, but I he is more of an upgrade at LB with the bodies we have. Perhaps he could be a pass rusher on pass downs and drop back to LB on run downs. leave run defense to Neal and Jones at DE.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



And that's why I think we should just play both alignments.

If the offense can learn and install different schemes and packages, I don't see why the defense can't.
Danreb Victorio A Believer of Greg Jennings
11 years ago
This defense needs some sort of change in scenery.
UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (15h) : Their season did kind of start there, so 🤷
dfosterf (22h) : Eagles put an engraved Brazil flag on their super bowl rings
Zero2Cool (18-Jul) : Benton unsigned no more
Zero2Cool (17-Jul) : That's good analysis, yes you are getting old. It'd a blessing!
dfosterf (14-Jul) : *analysis* gettin' old
dfosterf (14-Jul) : One of the best analyisis I"ve ever watched at this time of an offseason
dfosterf (14-Jul) : Andy Herman interviewed Warren Sharp on his Pack a day podcast
packerfanoutwest (10-Jul) : Us Padres fans love it....But it'll be a Dodgers/Yankees World Series
Zero2Cool (9-Jul) : Brewers sweep Dodgers. Awesome
Mucky Tundra (6-Jul) : And James Flanigan is the grandson of Packers Super Bowl winner Jim Flanigan Sr.
Mucky Tundra (6-Jul) : Jerome Bettis and Jim Flanigans sons as well!
Zero2Cool (6-Jul) : Thomas Davis Jr is OLB, not WR. Oops.
Zero2Cool (6-Jul) : Larry Fitzgeral and Thomas Davis sons too. WR's as well.
Mucky Tundra (5-Jul) : Kaydon Finley, son of Jermichael Finley, commits to Notre Dame
dfosterf (3-Jul) : Make sure to send my props to him! A plus move!
Zero2Cool (3-Jul) : My cousin, yes.
dfosterf (3-Jul) : That was your brother the GB press gazette referenced with the red cross draft props thing, yes?
Zero2Cool (2-Jul) : Packers gonna unveil new throwback helmet in few weeks.
Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : I know it's Kleiman but this stuff writes itself
Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : "Make sure she signs the NDA before asking for a Happy Ending!"
Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : @NFL_DovKleiman Powerful: Deshaun Watson is taking Shedeur Sanders 'under his wing' as a mentor to the Browns QBs
Zero2Cool (30-Jun) : Dolphins get (back) Minkah Fitzpatrick in trade
Zero2Cool (30-Jun) : Steelers land Jalen Ramsey via Trade
dfosterf (26-Jun) : I think it would be great to have someone like Tom Grossi or Andy Herman on the Board of Directors so he/they could inform us
dfosterf (26-Jun) : Fair enough, WPR. Thing is, I have been a long time advocate to at least have some inkling of the dynamics within the board.
wpr (26-Jun) : 1st world owners/stockholders problems dfosterf.
Martha Careful (25-Jun) : I would have otherwise admirably served
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Also, no more provision for a write-in candidate, so Martha is off the table at least for this year
dfosterf (25-Jun) : You do have to interpret the boring fine print, but all stockholders all see he is on the ballot
dfosterf (25-Jun) : It also says he is subject to another ballot in 2028. I recall nothing of this nature with Murphy
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy is on my ballot subject to me penciling him in as a no.
dfosterf (25-Jun) : I thought it used to be we voted for the whatever they called the 45, and then they voted for the seven, and then they voted for Mark Murphy
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Because I was too lazy to change my address, I haven't voted fot years until this year
dfosterf (25-Jun) : of the folks that run this team. I do not recall Mark Murphy being subject to our vote.
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy yay or nay is on the pre-approved ballot that we always approve because we are uninformed and lazy, along with all the rest
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Weird question. Very esoteric. For stockholders. Also lengthy. Sorry. Offseason.
Zero2Cool (25-Jun) : Maybe wicked wind chill made it worse?
Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : And then he signs with Cleveland in the offseason
Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : @SharpFootball WR Diontae Johnson just admitted he refused to enter a game in 41° weather last year in Baltimore because he felt “ice cold”
Zero2Cool (24-Jun) : Yawn. Rodgers says he is "pretty sure" this be final season.
Zero2Cool (23-Jun) : PFT claims Packers are having extension talks with Zach Tom, Quay Walker.
Mucky Tundra (20-Jun) : GB-Minnesota 2004 Wild Card game popped up on my YouTube page....UGH
beast (20-Jun) : Hmm 🤔 re-signing Walker before Tom? Sounds highly questionable to me.
Mucky Tundra (19-Jun) : One person on Twitter=cannon law
Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Well, to ONE person on Tweeter
Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : According to Tweeter
Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Packers are working on extension for LT Walker they hope to have done before camp
dfosterf (18-Jun) : E4B landed at Andrews last night
dfosterf (18-Jun) : 101 in a 60
dfosterf (18-Jun) : FAFO
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2025 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
COMMANDERS
Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
Browns
Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
Cardinals
Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
PANTHERS
Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
EAGLES
Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
Giants
Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
Bears
Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
RAVENS
Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
Vikings
Recent Topics
7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

8h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

18-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

15-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

14-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

10-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

10-Jul / Around The NFL / Zero2Cool

6-Jul / Random Babble / Martha Careful

4-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

2-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

2-Jul / Fantasy Sports Talk / dfosterf

1-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

29-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

25-Jun / Around The NFL / Martha Careful

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.