The 4-3 alignment we had didn't look bad.

blueleopard
Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

I know most of the community here will call for Dom Capers head, and while I don't think he should necessarily be fired, today really made me think about what the man really has up his sleeves.

Joe Buck and Troy Aikman were right, Capers has been doing all he can possibly do with a lack of talent. It was already enough to have Matthews and Jolly on the sideline, but it got progressively worse with Sam Shields, arguably our best corner, and Mike Neal leaving.

When we had to re-align to the 4-3, they seemed to get a lot of good pressure against the Niners offensive line--and those guys are huge.

I'm not saying we should go back to the 4-3, but it should at least be a wrinkle. The Patriots run both under Belichick, and Capers was nothing but an advisor there before coming here to take over.

I know what I'm saying won't cause anything to happen, but I must say I liked what I saw when I saw it.

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PackFanWithTwins
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10 years ago

I would say we should go with an aggressive 4-3. We have the bodies. Matthews and Perry both could play 4-3 LB along with Hawk.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

wpr
Preferred Member

10 years ago

I know most of the community here will call for Dom Capers head, and while I don't think he should necessarily be fired, today really made me think about what the man really has up his sleeves.

Joe Buck and Troy Aikman were right, Capers has been doing all he can possibly do with a lack of talent. It was already enough to have Matthews and Jolly on the sideline, but it got progressively worse with Sam Shields, arguably our best corner, and Mike Neal leaving.

When we had to re-align to the 4-3, they seemed to get a lot of good pressure against the Niners offensive line--and those guys are huge.

I'm not saying we should go back to the 4-3, but it should at least be a wrinkle. The Patriots run both under Belichick, and Capers was nothing but an advisor there before coming here to take over.

I know what I'm saying won't cause anything to happen, but I must say I liked what I saw when I saw it.

Originally Posted by: blueleopard

I am. The 3-4 was suppose to be this wonderful alignment that gave capers all this flexibility to blitz from anywhere and to STOP THE RUN by having the LBers come untouched and make the play.

Nothing. I have not seen the 3-4 do anything. The DL disappears for 90% of the game. The LB come running in to the middle of the field to try and get the ball carrier and they leave outside contain go.

Give me 4 fatties to stuff the run and collapse the pocket any day of the week.

blueleopard
Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

Actually, with Perry I can almost guarantee Nick Perry would be more effective with his hand on the ground.

RE - Perry
DT - Raji
DT - Boyd
LE - Neal/Datone Jones

OLB - Matthews
MLB - Brad Jones
OLB - Hawk

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DakotaT
Select Member

10 years ago

Originally Posted by: blueleopard

Replace Raji with Jolly and Boyd with Daniels with Boyd being the 3rd DT and you might be on to something. I would prefer Barrington or some other thumper in the middle though in base defense. Not a big fan of Brad Jones.

Mucky Tundra
Veteran Member

10 years ago

At this point going to a 4-3 makes sense from a simple draft standpoint. A majority of the league runs the 3-4 now and true players for it have become scarce. Thus we get stuck with an endless amount of conversion projects.

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blueleopard
Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

I think we have the personnel to run either and should run both.

But it's not gonna mean anything if Morgan Burnett is the last line of defense. He needs somebody worth a shit back there helping him.

Whether it's HaHa Clinton-Dix or a free agent, we can't "hope" for a safety. We need to find one right away. Give Buffalo the 2nd round choice they want for Byrd.

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PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

10 years ago

Originally Posted by: blueleopard

Perry could play either, but I he is more of an upgrade at LB with the bodies we have. Perhaps he could be a pass rusher on pass downs and drop back to LB on run downs. leave run defense to Neal and Jones at DE.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

blueleopard
Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins

And that's why I think we should just play both alignments.

If the offense can learn and install different schemes and packages, I don't see why the defense can't.

Danreb Victorio A Believer of Greg Jennings

cheeseheads123
Member

10 years ago

#10

This defense needs some sort of change in scenery.

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