azrunning
13 years ago
If the defense gave up an average of 19 points per game they would be a top 5 defense in the league.
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago

If that 10 is more than their opponent, that is what dictates them being good.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Point taken. So what does the fact that they have gone 2-5 in that stretch mean?
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zombieslayer
13 years ago

If the defense gave up an average of 19 points per game they would be a top 5 defense in the league.

Originally Posted by: azrunning 



This is my original point.

The KC D isn't that good. The O should be able to score more than 19 points against a mediocre D.

So yes, NSD is right that KC scored more against us than they usually score. But still, we need to score more than 19 points against a mediocre D. I think they're ranked something like #23.
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago

NSD is right that KC scored more against us than they usually score.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 


But that isn't my point. My point is that they are not a very good team, period.
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all_about_da_packers
13 years ago

If the defense gave up an average of 19 points per game they would be a top 5 defense in the league.

Originally Posted by: azrunning 



But they did not "just" give up 19 points; the yards they gave up and the fact that the Chiefs - if they had an offense worth a damn - should have easily come up with three TDs, instead of settling for 3 FGs. That's a further 12 points put on the board.

This defense, outside of Charlie Peprah, is not getting beat because of inadequate physical talent. It's mental lapses. It's OLBs not maintaining the edge to provide containment. It's CB's biting really badly on play-action, leaving receivers open to run deep (or, in the Chiefs case, a slow TE like Pope to run deep). And, based on others performance evaluations from the Chiefs game, it's Morgan Burnett playing Safety like you would expect ex-Packers FB Quinn Johnson to play Safety (horribly, and that's probably putting it nicely).

Making splash plays 2-3 times a game is not going to keep overcoming the fact that besides those big plays, your D is playing like a bunch of rookies who've never been coached on proper fundamentals before.

A defense giving up an average of 19 points would indeed not be that bad. The problem is, the way our D is playing, it's got the potential to give up 35+ points any given week. Hell, it's giving up yards left / right / center.

And the final 2 minutes of the game? Are you f'n kidding me? You know they are going to run it. And they still get 2 first downs on the ground.

This was as pathetic a game from our D as there has been during the McCarthy era. Problem is, the mistakes are recurring at an alarming level; they are mostly all mental lapses that should easily be corrected. 13 weeks in, they haven't been. NSD mentioned something about not wanting to face the Saints because our D won't be able to stop their offense even once. The way the D is playing, that possibility is not an exaggeration.
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Dulak
13 years ago

I was at the game and it was a very miserable experience. The Packers just looked like they didn't want to play the game.

KC receivers were WIDE open. Some to the point where there wasn't a defender within 10-15 yards sometimes (the pass to Pope was one). Capers was running a very soft zone defense and hardly dialed up a blitz on KC. You can give any quarterback in the league that time to throw with wide open receivers and they will have a field day.

Our defensive line missed Pickett and is just not good all around. Raji is being double-teamed all the time and Mike Neal is basically non-existent out there. Matthews was easily handled as well. The Packers defense created ZERO turnovers. Last time they did that was the last time they lost...2010 Patriots.


Offense was just as bad, if not worse. What I couldn't understand was why Ryan Grant wasn't given the ball more? 12 carries for 63 yard (5.5 avg) and he was being motioned out of the backfield a few times (more than I have ever seen). I am guessing that has a lot to do with Aaron's play calling at the line. The receivers and Rodgers were just off all game. Randall Cobb was the only receiver who really came to play. People shouldn't credit Finely with all those drops because a lot of those throws were terrible. Finley made an amazing over the shoulder adjustment to a pass to set up Driver for a touchdown.

The offensive line injuries don't do the Packers any kind of favor. They were just as off as the receivers were and now we are fighting injuries. And though I know he is injured, I am sorry to say that I am not sold on Sherrod...at all. There were multiple plays where he hardly even touched the defender.

As the title states though, 13-1 isn't so bad and this has to be a major wake up call to the players and the coaching staff. The Packers have to make do with what they have right now and make it work. The injury bug was a lot worse last year and they were able to overcome that bump. Back-up players need to step up in the meantime and just get it done.

Side rant... a lot of Packers "fans" have made me sick to my stomach on twitter with the personal attacks on the players. I just couldn't believe some of the stuff that was being said to these players; more specifically to Newhouse, Neal, and Finley (who I don't believe checks his account anymore). It was embarrassing seeing some of these "fans" attack the players because of a single loss. Social media makes it way too easy for morons to act like even bigger morons.

13-1 isn't so bad.

Originally Posted by: G-Force 



nice post Gforce +1 ...

like to see a game sometime myself - too bad you saw this game but hey least you got to go 😉
dfosterf
13 years ago
This is not a championship team. Not Anymore.

The defense has to get so much better. It is awful.

And now, Our o-line is a complete friggin' wreck.

It's been fun, but let's get real.



buckeyepackfan
13 years ago

This is not a championship team. Not Anymore.

The defense has to get so much better. It is awful.

And now, Our o-line is a complete friggin' wreck.

It's been fun, but let's get real.



Originally Posted by: dfosterf 




Have a little faith in Ted and Mike, one down week and your throwin in the towel.

Packers have 4 weeks to get healthy, and remember this is a playoff tested team, most have been there.

I'll admit, all these injuries is not the way a team would be want to go into the last 2 weeks of the season, but there is time.

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