MontanaBob
13 years ago
OK, so they really looked out of sync yesterday and the defense stunk it up again. So...........how many other teams are 13-1? Right, NADA! Maybe this will wake them up and they play like they can. Hey, wouldn't you rather they lose now than 5 weeks from now? The pressure is off for an undefeated season and it's time to get healthy and finish it off.

Years ago I was just a walk-on punter for Montana and we had won 16 in a row over two years and whether you realize it or not, the pressure is there. We lost in week 7 to Utah State, then went on to win the last three by lopsided scores. Woke us up soundly, plus the coach kicking our asses for being complacent helped immensely.

I'd rather be where we are now than the Colts, and Vikings, fighting for the right to draft Andrew Luck or RG III.
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TexasPackerFan
13 years ago
We stunk it up all around yesterday, but the pressure for 16-0 is now off and we can get back to just concentrating on getting back to the Super Bowl. It seemed like everything was more about going 16-0 than getting back to the big game. I'd rather have another Super Bowl than going undefeated and losing in the playoffs or the big game.

I think this will be a wake up call to this team and we will start unleashing an all out attack and dominate teams hopefully on both sides of the ball.
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RaiderPride
13 years ago
On the other side of the coin...

Valuable game film information provided by the Chiefs for opposing O.C's on how to's and dont's on beating the Packers.

A Remarkable dosage of confidence booster juice for the small doubt's that may have lingered in teams that will face the Packers this year. I can see every pre game speach from this point out begining with "You are better then the Chiefs, if they can do it you can do it."


What is better? A dose of humility for the Packers or a dose of confidence for everyone else?
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nerdmann
13 years ago

On the other side of the coin...

Valuable game film information provided by the Chiefs for opposing O.C's on how to's and dont's on beating the Packers.

A Remarkable dosage of confidence booster juice for the small doubt's that may have lingered in teams that will face the Packers this year. I can see every pre game speach from this point out begining with "You are better then the Chiefs, if they can do it you can do it."


What is better? A dose of humility for the Packers or a dose of confidence for everyone else?

Originally Posted by: RaiderPride 


Teams will see game film of Finley dropping 6 passes and will know how to beat us.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Teams will see game film of Finley dropping 6 passes and will know how to beat us.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


Jermichael Finley was targeted 10 times, catching three of them. I'm not sure how many of the seven can be faulted on Finley. I know two for sure were right in his hands. I know of another he made good effort diving in the middle of the field and got his hands on one that he should have had as well. I don't think we can credit him for 6 drops, but 3 I could consciously do.
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musccy
13 years ago
Part of me wanted a loss mid-season for the reasons you stated Montana, thus I agree with much of what you said.

However, to act as if this is the team's first wake up call is just not accurate.

The team nearly lost/went to OT vs. the Vikes, Chargers, Saints, and Giants and has had their defensive inadequacies, most notably no pass rush, below avg. M-LB play, and sieve-like pass coverage on display all year long.

I'm not at all worried about the offense, about 5 mainstays out and uncharacteristic drops, Sunday was an anomoly we won't see again this year. The defense however, save for some OK performances against below-avg teams, has yet to demonstrate that they can be called upon to win a game if the offense ever struggles, wake-up call or not.
13 years ago
While we can complain about anything, I am disappointed about:

1) Not having the perfect season. As much as the Packers and their fans love history it would have been nice to add to Packers history.

2) Not setting the franchise record for most regular season wins. Other Packers teams have won 13 games in a season.

3) Rodgers missing out on getting consideration for MVP. His numbers are just not keeping pace with Brees and Brady. With a bad O-line he is not looking sharp and under control.

4) O-line and RB injuries make the team ineffective for the playoffs especially when Rodgers can't throw the ball in the wind and cold.

5) The defense's inability to get to an opposing QB.

6) The linebacker's coverage problems.

7) The dread of losing a playoff game at Lambeau Field.

8) Nobody wants to fall apart at the end of a season like the 2002 Packers.
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musccy
13 years ago
I disagree with #4 to an extent, Calicheez. The O-line injuries did cause some issues with protection, esp. vs. Hali, but for the most part the run game was effective even w/o Bulaga, Cliffy, Saine, or Starks yesterday.

I'm being nit-picky, and agree with most of the rest of what you wrote.
azrunning
13 years ago
I don't know if the defense played that badly. Certainly they held the opposing team to a score that should have been low enough to win the game. Yes they gave up a lot of yards but they have been doing that all year and we don't care about those anyway, do we.

If the offense would have helped them out at all with some possession time, the chiefs might not have scored that last touchdown or have been able to run out the clock. Defense was gassed.
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13 years ago

I don't know if the defense played that badly. Certainly they held the opposing team to a score that should have been low enough to win the game. Yes they gave up a lot of yards but they have been doing that all year and we don't care about those anyway, do we.

If the offense would have helped them out at all with some possession time, the chiefs might not have scored that last touchdown or have been able to run out the clock. Defense was gassed.

Originally Posted by: azrunning 



Well, I think they had themselves as much or more than the offense for being gassed. How many times did Orton have serious pressure? How many third downs did KC convert? The DL made some really good plays in the red zone, I'll grant. But they let Orton and company ([u][ORTON/u] and company, get into the red zone far too often and far too easily.

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