MassPackersFan
15 years ago

Honestly, can you say that you don't look and wonder if Pujols is clean? OR Braun? Or Fielder? Or Dunn?

How about Nelson Cruz whom all of a sudden has found a power swing in the majors when he was up and down in the Brewers farm system?

Maybe it is too much to consider him guilty, but as it stands right now, I wouldn't put money on the fact that anyone is clean.

"pack93z" wrote:



Oddly enough, I don't suspect Fielder. *Maybe* Braun, but Fielder was hitting balls out of major league baseball parks when he was what, 12?
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MassPackersFan
15 years ago

Nor would I. I'm just saying I don't think we should accuse Pujols or anyone that hasn't tested positive of using steroids. MPF I'm not saying you did, I'm just saying that we shouldn't.

"go.pack.go." wrote:



True. Calling out people individually before we know anything is bad. I think it's fine to be skeptical of everyone putting up big power numbers in this day and age.

That may be taking it a bit far, but you know what I mean. It has more and more become a sad reality with each name to come out so far.
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go.pack.go.
15 years ago
Yeah, this is one of the reasons I dislike baseball so much. It seems like you can't hardly have anyone that is good that isn't on the juice.

NFL has a few, but the majority of the good players in the NFL are clean (I hope).
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gopackgo
15 years ago

Not shocked all. Thought he was on something and this confirms it. Manny doesn't shock me either and the two of them were close so that just makes it more obvious.

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What's so funny is that they couldn't be reacting to this more differently. Manny has his "I don't give a shit, I'm Manny Ramirez" deal going on and Papi is shocked and is looking to get to the bottom of it.
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Cheesey
15 years ago
Griffey Jr. has done well his whole career. And i don't think he used. Of course i don't KNOW, but i think he's clean. He hasn't bulked up like McGuire, Bonds, Sosa, and the likes. If you look at baseball cards of the players i listed, only Griffey Jr. has looked the same throughout his career.
If he had stayed healthy, I bet he would have been the all time HR champ.
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djcubez
15 years ago

Griffey Jr. has done well his whole career. And i don't think he used. Of course i don't KNOW, but i think he's clean. He hasn't bulked up like McGuire, Bonds, Sosa, and the likes. If you look at baseball cards of the players i listed, only Griffey Jr. has looked the same throughout his career.
If he had stayed healthy, I bet he would have been the all time HR champ.

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I agree with you on Griffey, he's been beaten down a lot but I've always been a fan. Porky also has a good list of players that deserve credit for having never (apparently) used PEDs. To be honest, with what Goodell has done to the NFL after Taglibue (not that he was bad) needs to happen for the MLB. Selig just hasn't gotten it done and the MLB needs an overhaul and image change after the taint of the last two decades. Someone needs to come in and strike the hammer, testing EVERY player and dealing out HEFTY punishments, like year-long suspensions and large fines. That will definitely make players re-think their attitude toward using PEDs.
Cheesey
15 years ago
Yup. If the punishment isn't harsh enough, it won't stop the "cheaters".
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gotarace
15 years ago
We talk of the big name in the game but i would like to know who are the other 99 players that also tested possitive for the Roids??? We may all be suprised who else is included on that list.
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