The defense has also bailed the offense out with takeaways. Look at the numbers of points scored to points give up for all of the games this season. Which one is most unlike the others? Offense didn't convert on third downs.

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13-1 isn't just okay, its awesome! More I think about it, the Chiefs are not so bad. They had a new coach and apparently hated their old coach - so they were motivated. They had Kyle Orten instead of Palko. If anyone thinks we would have lost to the Chiefs with Palko has to be kidding themselves. The Chiefs won due a lot to Orten's play. I think we underestimate how good the Chiefs actually were or are going to be. The Saints lost to the RAMS this year. Losing to the Chiefs in these circumstances is not that bad.

No pressure of going 19-0 (which would have been F'N AWESOME), I think our chances of winning the SB are no less this week than after last week. Injuries may be a concern but whatever, I think we're going to be completely fine. And the D is not that bad. Yeah they did not get a turnover this week but we take turnovers for granted as a fan base. It is not the norm to expect your D to get 2+ turnovers every game. But our D will usually get those 2+ turnovers and this game was really an exception to that - I don't expect that to happen every week.

Btw, imagine if the Chiefs beat the Broncos for the AFC West with Orten at QB?!

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I am not giving the offense a pass. Their performance was lousy. But as I have been saying all season, I have been concerned that if the offense had a sub-optimal game, the defense would not be able to pick up the slack. They certainly were not able to. The yards don't matter as long as your offense is scoring lots of points and you can pull an occasional turnover out of your ass to impress the starry-eyed masses. But the yards do matter if you can't manage those turnovers and you give up field goals on a day your offense is impotent.

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I was at the game and it was a very miserable experience. The Packers just looked like they didn't want to play the game.

KC receivers were WIDE open. Some to the point where there wasn't a defender within 10-15 yards sometimes (the pass to Pope was one). Capers was running a very soft zone defense and hardly dialed up a blitz on KC. You can give any quarterback in the league that time to throw with wide open receivers and they will have a field day.

Our defensive line missed Pickett and is just not good all around. Raji is being double-teamed all the time and Mike Neal is basically non-existent out there. Matthews was easily handled as well. The Packers defense created ZERO turnovers. Last time they did that was the last time they lost...2010 Patriots.


Offense was just as bad, if not worse. What I couldn't understand was why Ryan Grant wasn't given the ball more? 12 carries for 63 yard (5.5 avg) and he was being motioned out of the backfield a few times (more than I have ever seen). I am guessing that has a lot to do with Aaron's play calling at the line. The receivers and Rodgers were just off all game. Randall Cobb was the only receiver who really came to play. People shouldn't credit Finely with all those drops because a lot of those throws were terrible. Finley made an amazing over the shoulder adjustment to a pass to set up Driver for a touchdown.

The offensive line injuries don't do the Packers any kind of favor. They were just as off as the receivers were and now we are fighting injuries. And though I know he is injured, I am sorry to say that I am not sold on Sherrod...at all. There were multiple plays where he hardly even touched the defender.

As the title states though, 13-1 isn't so bad and this has to be a major wake up call to the players and the coaching staff. The Packers have to make do with what they have right now and make it work. The injury bug was a lot worse last year and they were able to overcome that bump. Back-up players need to step up in the meantime and just get it done.

Side rant... a lot of Packers "fans" have made me sick to my stomach on twitter with the personal attacks on the players. I just couldn't believe some of the stuff that was being said to these players; more specifically to Newhouse, Neal, and Finley (who I don't believe checks his account anymore). It was embarrassing seeing some of these "fans" attack the players because of a single loss. Social media makes it way too easy for morons to act like even bigger morons.

13-1 isn't so bad.

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The Chiefs haven't scored 20 points in 7 games. Until Sunday, they hadn't scored more than 10 in 6 games. That's pretty damn bad as far as I am concerned.

And no, 13-1 isn't bad. It's great. It's just the nature of the defeat that chaps my ass.

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Yeah but do you think the Chiefs with Palko score more than 20 points on us?

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No, that's just my point. Even with Orton, they only scored 19. They aren't a good team. 😝

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Oh. That changes things.

Then both ends got Fails. 😞

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Whether a team scores 10 or 40 points does not dictate if they are good or not. If that 10 is more than their opponent, that is what dictates them being good. The argument would be more apt to their offense not being good due to 10 points a game being scored. Not the team.

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It's morning and I'm half awake so let me see if I understand you correctly. This is what I believe:

Let's just say for argument's sake that we play an average team, whatever that means. They have an average O and an average D. Our D allows 10 points. We lose. Who gets the fail?

I'm more inclined to put the fail on the O. You gotta score more than 10 points.

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Case 2. We rematch that average team. We score 42 points. We lose. The D gets the fail. 42 points should be enough to win a game.

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