Thursday Night Season Opener· Page 5

peteralan71
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13 years ago

That's tough but I'm going to have to say the Saints. I want the season to start off with a lot of points and excitement, completely void of gastric ulcers and projectile diarrhea.

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peteralan71
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13 years ago

#42

I'm a little upset with myself that before now, I knew NOTHING of the "cheating" (ah, hell, I don't even need quotations on that!) that the Bronco's did back in 97...

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zombieslayer
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13 years ago

#43

I'm a little upset with myself that before now, I knew NOTHING of the "cheating" (ah, hell, I don't even need quotations on that!) that the Bronco's did back in 97...

"peteralan71" wrote:

Peteralan - A little bit more info...

In December 2001, the Broncos were fined $968,000 and lost a third-round pick in the 2002 draft for violations reportedly relating to $29 million in deferred payments to quarterback John Elway and running back Terrell Davis.

On Thursday, the league announced that the Broncos have been fined $950,000 and will lose a third-round selection in next year's draft for circumventing the salary cap between 1996 and '98. The penalties were set in an agreement between the league, the Players Association and the Broncos and resolve a case against the team brought before the sport's special master by the NFL's Management Council in January 2003, the league announced.

The penalties could be viewed as further vindication for Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis, who has said in the past that Broncos owner Pat Bowlen should be suspended for salary cap violations. Davis has contended that the Broncos' circumvention of the salary cap helped them win the Super Bowl in the 1997 and '98 seasons.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28969-2004Sep17.html

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beast
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13 years ago

#44

What did the Broncos do? Pay John Elway and Terrell Davis more money off book?

Man NFL fines to coaches and teams sure do sound weak at times... the Broncos and Patriots won Super Bowl by cheating and only get slaps on the wrist 😞

beast
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13 years ago

#45

The Buccaneers did not make the playoffs and had a good record by playing the NFC West.

"wpr" wrote:

The Falcons, Saints, Seahawks and Bucs all got help from playing the NFC West and Panthers at least 6 times... and that's half of the NFC playoff teams...

"beast" wrote:

Atlanta's Strength of Schedule was 20th and NO was 22nd. Meanwhile GB was #9.
No team in the playoffs had a more difficult schedule than GB.
Of all the teams in the playoffs KC had the easiest schedule followed by NO, Chicago and Indy, Baltimore and Seattle, Then Atlanta.
Rounding out the rest, Jets and Eagles. Only Pitt and New England along with GB were above .500 in SOS.

Strength of Victory was similar. Atlanta Tied @14th, NO 16th GB Tied @ 8th.

"CaliforniaCheez" wrote:

If Atl was 20th and NO 22nd then how did four teams get between them?

So you say Chi, Indy, Bal and Sea all got between them...?

peteralan71
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13 years ago

#46

I'm a little upset with myself that before now, I knew NOTHING of the "cheating" (ah, hell, I don't even need quotations on that!) that the Bronco's did back in 97...

"zombieslayer" wrote:

Peteralan - A little bit more info...

"peteralan71" wrote:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28969-2004Sep17.html

Thank you 🙂

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peteralan71
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13 years ago

#47

The penalties could be viewed as further vindication for Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis, who has said in the past that Broncos owner Pat Bowlen should be suspended for salary cap violations. Davis has contended that the Broncos' circumvention of the salary cap helped them win the Super Bowl in the 1997 and '98 seasons.

Who would have thought that all along, Al Davis was right about something? Crazy bastard!

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wpr
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13 years ago

#48

The Buccaneers did not make the playoffs and had a good record by playing the NFC West.

"beast" wrote:

The Falcons, Saints, Seahawks and Bucs all got help from playing the NFC West and Panthers at least 6 times... and that's half of the NFC playoff teams...

"wpr" wrote:

"beast" wrote:

If Atl was 20th and NO 22nd then how did four teams get between them?

So you say Chi, Indy, Bal and Sea all got between them...?

"CaliforniaCheez" wrote:

I guess I was rambling last night. Of the playoff teams from hardest schedule to weakest schedule here they are:
GB
New England
Pitt
Jets and Eagles
Atlanta
Baltimore and Seattle
Chicago and Indy
NO
KC
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bozz_2006
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13 years ago

#49

I like the Raiders.

zombieslayer
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13 years ago

#50

Who would have thought that all along, Al Davis was right about something? Crazy bastard!

"peteralan71" wrote:

Actually he used to be one of the best GMs in the NFL. Then he went senile.

"beast" wrote:

Yes. Suspensions should have been enforced in both cases. I do agree that the penalties were a bit light.

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packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed

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bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network

beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th

beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno

beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?

packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans

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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.

beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.

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