peteralan71
14 years ago
That's tough but I'm going to have to say the Saints. I want the season to start off with a lot of points and excitement, completely void of gastric ulcers and projectile diarrhea.
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peteralan71
14 years ago
I'm a little upset with myself that before now, I knew NOTHING of the "cheating" (ah, hell, I don't even need quotations on that!) that the Bronco's did back in 97...
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zombieslayer
14 years ago

I'm a little upset with myself that before now, I knew NOTHING of the "cheating" (ah, hell, I don't even need quotations on that!) that the Bronco's did back in 97...

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Peteralan - A little bit more info...

In December 2001, the Broncos were fined $968,000 and lost a third-round pick in the 2002 draft for violations reportedly relating to $29 million in deferred payments to quarterback John Elway and running back Terrell Davis.

On Thursday, the league announced that the Broncos have been fined $950,000 and will lose a third-round selection in next year's draft for circumventing the salary cap between 1996 and '98. The penalties were set in an agreement between the league, the Players Association and the Broncos and resolve a case against the team brought before the sport's special master by the NFL's Management Council in January 2003, the league announced.

The penalties could be viewed as further vindication for Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis, who has said in the past that Broncos owner Pat Bowlen should be suspended for salary cap violations. Davis has contended that the Broncos' circumvention of the salary cap helped them win the Super Bowl in the 1997 and '98 seasons.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28969-2004Sep17.html 
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beast
14 years ago
What did the Broncos do? Pay John Elway and Terrell Davis more money off book?

Man NFL fines to coaches and teams sure do sound weak at times... the Broncos and Patriots won Super Bowl by cheating and only get slaps on the wrist 😞
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beast
14 years ago



The Buccaneers did not make the playoffs and had a good record by playing the NFC West.

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The Falcons, Saints, Seahawks and Bucs all got help from playing the NFC West and Panthers at least 6 times... and that's half of the NFC playoff teams...

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Atlanta's Strength of Schedule was 20th and NO was 22nd. Meanwhile GB was #9.
No team in the playoffs had a more difficult schedule than GB.
Of all the teams in the playoffs KC had the easiest schedule followed by NO, Chicago and Indy, Baltimore and Seattle, Then Atlanta.
Rounding out the rest, Jets and Eagles. Only Pitt and New England along with GB were above .500 in SOS.

Strength of Victory was similar. Atlanta Tied @14th, NO 16th GB Tied @ 8th.

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If Atl was 20th and NO 22nd then how did four teams get between them?

So you say Chi, Indy, Bal and Sea all got between them...?
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peteralan71
14 years ago

I'm a little upset with myself that before now, I knew NOTHING of the "cheating" (ah, hell, I don't even need quotations on that!) that the Bronco's did back in 97...

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Peteralan - A little bit more info...

In December 2001, the Broncos were fined $968,000 and lost a third-round pick in the 2002 draft for violations reportedly relating to $29 million in deferred payments to quarterback John Elway and running back Terrell Davis.

On Thursday, the league announced that the Broncos have been fined $950,000 and will lose a third-round selection in next year's draft for circumventing the salary cap between 1996 and '98. The penalties were set in an agreement between the league, the Players Association and the Broncos and resolve a case against the team brought before the sport's special master by the NFL's Management Council in January 2003, the league announced.

The penalties could be viewed as further vindication for Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis, who has said in the past that Broncos owner Pat Bowlen should be suspended for salary cap violations. Davis has contended that the Broncos' circumvention of the salary cap helped them win the Super Bowl in the 1997 and '98 seasons.

"peteralan71" wrote:



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28969-2004Sep17.html 



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peteralan71
14 years ago

The penalties could be viewed as further vindication for Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis, who has said in the past that Broncos owner Pat Bowlen should be suspended for salary cap violations. Davis has contended that the Broncos' circumvention of the salary cap helped them win the Super Bowl in the 1997 and '98 seasons.



Who would have thought that all along, Al Davis was right about something? Crazy bastard!
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The Buccaneers did not make the playoffs and had a good record by playing the NFC West.

"beast" wrote:



The Falcons, Saints, Seahawks and Bucs all got help from playing the NFC West and Panthers at least 6 times... and that's half of the NFC playoff teams...

"wpr" wrote:



Atlanta's Strength of Schedule was 20th and NO was 22nd. Meanwhile GB was #9.
No team in the playoffs had a more difficult schedule than GB.
Of all the teams in the playoffs KC had the easiest schedule followed by NO, Chicago and Indy, Baltimore and Seattle, Then Atlanta.
Rounding out the rest, Jets and Eagles. Only Pitt and New England along with GB were above .500 in SOS.

Strength of Victory was similar. Atlanta Tied @14th, NO 16th GB Tied @ 8th.

"beast" wrote:



If Atl was 20th and NO 22nd then how did four teams get between them?

So you say Chi, Indy, Bal and Sea all got between them...?

"CaliforniaCheez" wrote:



I guess I was rambling last night. Of the playoff teams from hardest schedule to weakest schedule here they are:
GB
New England
Pitt
Jets and Eagles
Atlanta
Baltimore and Seattle
Chicago and Indy
NO
KC
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bozz_2006
14 years ago
I like the Raiders.
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zombieslayer
14 years ago



Who would have thought that all along, Al Davis was right about something? Crazy bastard!

"peteralan71" wrote:



Actually he used to be one of the best GMs in the NFL. Then he went senile.

What did the Broncos do? Pay John Elway and Terrell Davis more money off book?

Man NFL fines to coaches and teams sure do sound weak at times... the Broncos and Patriots won Super Bowl by cheating and only get slaps on the wrist :(

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Yes. Suspensions should have been enforced in both cases. I do agree that the penalties were a bit light.
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