dfosterf
14 years ago
PFT- Questions arise as to whether Rodgers suffered a concussion 

Posted by Mike Florio on January 25, 2011, 1:20 PM EST
Lost in the chatter after the Bears-Packers game regarding a quarterback who didnt play after suffering a knee injury is the question of whether a quarterback in the same game played with a head injury.

Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers took a helmet to the jaw from Bears defensive end Julius Peppers with less than 12 minutes in the fourth quarter and the Packers leading 14-7. On the field, much of the discussion in the aftermath of the play and the personal foul it drew focused on whether Peppers deserved to be flagged. Obviously, he did. The reverse angle shows Rodgers head getting rattled by the placement of Peppers helmet into Aarons ear hole.

It was less clear to us whether Rodgers was exhibiting the obvious symptoms of someone who has suffered a concussion. Since then, its been tempting to wonder whether Rodgers willed himself to get up and hold it together after taking a hit that, given his two concussions during the regular season, easily could have resulted in a third.

Shawn Doherty of Madison.coms The Capital Times delves into question of whether Rodgers suffered a concussion, and whether the Packers failed to attempt to diagnose it. In this regard, Doherty writes that Rodgers looked woozy and wobbling about with dazed eyes. If anything, Rodgers looked to us like, at worst, a guy who was fighting to not seem woozy and wobbly, since he realized that if he seemed woozy and wobbly hed be evaluated for yet another concussion and possibly yanked from the game.

We agree with Doherty regarding the fact that FOX didnt say much (if anything) about the possibility that Rodgers had suffered another concussion. Joe Buck pointed out that Rodgers has had two concussions during the season, Troy Aikman said that Rodgers was blown up on the play, but there was never any talk about whether the hit gave Rodgers a new concussion.

And if FOX cameras captured images of Rodgers being checked out after that drive by doctors, those images never made their way from the truck to the satellite. (Possibly because of all the Disinterested Jay images that were being sent through the pipes.)

Regardless of whether Rodgers suffered a concussion, this situation highlights the need for having a safety official in the booth who has the job of ensuring not that players are prevented from playing once theyve been diagnosed as having concussions, but that they are prevented from playing until theyve been cleared, if theyve taken a blow to the head that the safety official believes requires an examination.

Such an approach would create a greater incentive for guys like Peppers to pop Rodgers. As a result, greater penalties and fines and suspensions would have to be imposed to keep defenses from deliberately trying to inflict a blow to the head and thus knock the starting quarterback out of a game.

Still, if the league wants to give credibility to its approach to concussions, a guy who has taken a big hit to the head shouldnt be allowed to bluff his way around the medical staff, heroic as such behavior might be regarded especially in a game that has raised questions regarding whether the other starting quarterback did enough to fight the decision to pull him from the game with a knee injury.

Not every concussion causes a player to lose his ability to walk and talk and otherwise act like a guy who hasnt suffered a concussion. In Rodgers case, he was smart enough before the play to know that he needs to not look like a guy who has suffered a concussion if he wants to keep playing in the biggest game of his life and its possible that he was still smart enough to know that after the play, even if he indeed suffered a concussion from the crushing hit he received.

The question now becomes whether Rodgers is feeling any effects of the hit, like headaches or dizziness since Sunday night, and whether hell say anything to anyone about it.

If he is, we dont expect him to say a word. The stakes are too high, and the stage is too big. Besides, we fully support the ability of grown men to embrace known risks. If we were in Rodgers shoes and if our ability to quarterback the Packers in a Super Bowl potentially would be lost by talking about the headaches and dizziness we were suffering, we wouldnt say a word about it.

And we suspect that most of you reading this would handle it the same way.

DakotaT
14 years ago
Rodgers looked pretty smooth in his press conference after the game. I guess I don't remember seeing and concussion sufferers being interviewed right after a game so I have nothing to compare it too. I didn't think he looked dazed after the hit, I thought he looked pissed off from being cheap shotted, AGAIN.
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14 years ago
I don't remember him seeming woozy or wobbly, to be honest. I remember him taking a while to get back up, which I would expect after taking a shot to the ear, hand to the face, and biting his lip. Hopefully the new helmet did its job.
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JordyNelson87
14 years ago
Peppers is dirty:


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Yerko
14 years ago

Interesting little-known factoid I got from my postgame conversation with Aaron Rodgers: After being twice-concussed this season, he changed helmets to one of the new, safer, high-tech models the league has been urging players to use.
Remember the big helmet-to-helmet hit he took early in the fourth quarter from Chicago defensive end Julius Peppers, the one that drew a 15-yard penalty on Peppers? Well, Rodgers feels that hit could well have led to concussion number three had he not been wearing the new helmet.
"That was lucky,'' Rodgers told me. "As much as the new helmet feels uncomfortable and I'm still getting used to it, I'm really happy I was wearing it on that hit.''
The hit by Peppers, running full bore at Rodgers, is the kind the league wants to take out of the game -- even thought Peppers is absolutely not a dirty player and I'm sure didn't mean to hit Rodgers in the head. Rodgers took no malice from it at all. But the league wants onrushing linemen to aim lower with their hits, and I wouldn't be surprised if Peppers gets a fine for making contact with Rodgers' helmet, even though it wasn't the kind of classic helmet-to-helmet hit that leaves a quarterback woozy.
"It hurt, I can tell you that,'' Rodgers said. "He hit me pretty good. I know what a concussion feels like. I'm just grateful this wasn't hard enough to give me another one.''
Rodgers said he wasn't woozy at all after the game, and he looked fine. So I'm sure he won't feel foggy for the Super Bowl. Coach Mike McCarthy did say he had a sore throwing shoulder, from his one-yard touchdown run on the first series of the game, but it didn't sound as if McCarthy or Rodgers felt it would limit anything the Packers will do against Pittsburgh in 12 days.



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Yerko
14 years ago

I was reading the Chicago Tribune and Chicago Sun-Times articles after the game.

More than one comment from Bears fans characterized that hit as a b.s. call.

One of them called it an outrageously biased call.


I love reading the comments of fans from teams we just beat.


It's a hobby. :tongue3:

"peteralan71" wrote:

The blindness of fans sometimes is perplexing. Not only did Peppers have a blatant helmet-to-helmet hit, where he launched himself head-first, Briggs also hit Rodgers in the helmet with his hand. Two players "broke the rules" on that play, and some Chicago fans still think it was unfair. Wow.

"dfosterf" wrote:



Ask those same Bears fans if they think the helmet-to-helmet called on Zombo was fair and they would say yes. Homers.

Chicago fans are God-awful and I live amongst them all. They are big time haters.
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wpr
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14 years ago

I was reading the Chicago Tribune and Chicago Sun-Times articles after the game.

More than one comment from Bears fans characterized that hit as a b.s. call.

One of them called it an outrageously biased call.


I love reading the comments of fans from teams we just beat.


It's a hobby. :tongue3:

"G-Force" wrote:

The blindness of fans sometimes is perplexing. Not only did Peppers have a blatant helmet-to-helmet hit, where he launched himself head-first, Briggs also hit Rodgers in the helmet with his hand. Two players "broke the rules" on that play, and some Chicago fans still think it was unfair. Wow.

"peteralan71" wrote:



Ask those same Bears fans if they think the helmet-to-helmet called on Zombo was fair and they would say yes. Homers.

Chicago fans are God-awful and I live amongst them all. They are big time haters.

"dfosterf" wrote:


On Monday I was listening to the SCORE (mainly to hear them cry.) I do not remember which of the afternoon personalities it was.He said that technically it was the correct call but Peppers hit was so light that they shouldn't have thrown the flag as wasn't that big of a deal. I was hollering at the radio that his helmet was on sideways after the hit. I got out of the car a few seconds later so I don't know where their show went from there.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Not a chance.
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peteralan71
14 years ago


On Monday I was listening to the SCORE (mainly to hear them cry.) I do not remember which of the afternoon personalities it was.He said that technically it was the correct call but Peppers hit was so light that they shouldn't have thrown the flag as wasn't that big of a deal. I was hollering at the radio that his helmet was on sideways after the hit. I got out of the car a few seconds later so I don't know where their show went from there.

"wpr" wrote:



It was so light that Rodgers' chinstrap was over his nose and mouth, and blood was shed. Hmmmmmmm....... And for conversation sake, let's pretend that he hardly hit Rodgers' helmet. The rule states that no matter how hard it is hit, it can be GRAZED, and it is a penalty.
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DakotaT
14 years ago

It was so light that Rodgers' chinstrap was over his nose and mouth, and blood was shed. Hmmmmmmm....... And for conversation sake, let's pretend that he hardly hit Rodgers' helmet. The rule states that no matter how hard it is hit, it can be GRAZED, and it is a penalty.

"peteralan71" wrote:



It should have two flags, one on Dirty Peppers and one on Briggs; plus an ejection for Peppers. Fvck Chicago, they're history cause we just knocked their dick in the dirt with our defense. I'm so sick of hearing how good their defense is, when ours is so much better.
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