Zero2Cool
a year ago

Truth be told, MLF offense was figured out after the 2021 season. He continues to stick with the game plan even though its not working. I see now why Rodgers audible quite often until 2022 when he stopped doing much so and what do u know, the offense looked like dog shit in 2022.

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 


What changed with Packers after the 2021 season? Did they lose an offensive All Pro to go play for his favorite team from childhood? Closer to his family?

LaFleur has struggled. He dies change the game plan. It's the changes are not executed.

The Packers don't have a stud offensive weapon. Aaron Jones is when healthy. Christian Watson can be when healthy. Our LT has been booboo for two seasons now.

The coach is A problem, but it doesn't matter who's calling plays or designing he offense when you don't have have a stud on offense.
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hardrocker950
a year ago

What changed with Packers after the 2021 season? Did they lose an offensive All Pro to go play for his favorite team from childhood? Closer to his family?

LaFleur has struggled. He dies change the game plan. It's the changes are not executed.

The Packers don't have a stud offensive weapon. Aaron Jones is when healthy. Christian Watson can be when healthy. Our LT has been booboo for two seasons now.

The coach is A problem, but it doesn't matter who's calling plays or designing he offense when you don't have have a stud on offense.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yup - while it has been painful to watch at times, there are several factors to consider. O Line has been a row of turnstiles - whether you are talking Ryan Leaf or Aaron Rodgers, they will struggle when protection breaks down on the vast majority of plays. A coach can scheme some extra help up front, but he can't make the block for them. I often see people saying Jordan can't go through his reads - while ignoring the fact that you need time to do that.

Running game has been mostly bad. Having no Jones is part of the problem - but much of that goes back to the O Line issues. Again - coach can't do it for them.

It seems often the receivers and QB aren't on the same page. Looks like they often run the wrong routes, hence some of the throws to nobody. This very well could be a coaching issue, or maybe our WR room just isn't too bright. Hard to say - many moving parts to this aspect.

Where I can point the finger at coaching - the playcalling has been horrible. They find success with certain plays/approaches - then just decide to stop using it. Sometimes it just seems like Matt closes his eyes and points to a play on his sheet and rolls with it.

So many things are broken...
bboystyle
a year ago

What changed with Packers after the 2021 season? Did they lose an offensive All Pro to go play for his favorite team from childhood? Closer to his family?

LaFleur has struggled. He dies change the game plan. It's the changes are not executed.

The Packers don't have a stud offensive weapon. Aaron Jones is when healthy. Christian Watson can be when healthy. Our LT has been booboo for two seasons now.

The coach is A problem, but it doesn't matter who's calling plays or designing he offense when you don't have have a stud on offense.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



You dont need a stud if u have a lot of talent on the team and a supposebly good offensive coach. Lets no act like Packer has a bunch of jags on the receiving end. I remember a lot of Packer fans excited to see how this offense would run without Rodgers because many believed he would just key on one player or look for the big play ruining this genius offensive scheme. Truth be told, MLF offenses stink no matter who is throwing the ball. It stunk in the playoffs since he arrived and now its stinking in the regular season going on 2 years in a row. When u have no answers to the lowly Raiders, the problem becomes bigger than not having stud players.
nerdmann
a year ago

You dont need a stud if u have a lot of talent on the team and a supposebly good offensive coach. Lets no act like Packer has a bunch of jags on the receiving end. I remember a lot of Packer fans excited to see how this offense would run without Rodgers because many believed he would just key on one player or look for the big play ruining this genius offensive scheme. Truth be told, MLF offenses stink no matter who is throwing the ball. It stunk in the playoffs since he arrived and now its stinking in the regular season going on 2 years in a row. When u have no answers to the lowly Raiders, the problem becomes bigger than not having stud players.

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 


You know there were a lot of guys hurt, right?

When we talk about the oline, we talk about running the ball. Anyone can pass protect.
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bboystyle
a year ago

You know there were a lot of guys hurt, right?

When we talk about the oline, we talk about running the ball. Anyone can pass protect.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


ill try to say this one more time as slow as i can...

THE ONGOING ISSUES WITH THE OFFENSE HAS BEEN THERE FOR A FEW YEARS NOW. THE ISSUE IS MLF OFENSE HAS BEEN FIGURED OUT AND HE CAN NOT ADJUST IN GAME.

understand? fuck injuries, fuck youth, fuck whoever the QB is, none of that matters when your coach can not make adjustments in game when shit is not working. This has been an issued whether we are healthy or not. Whether we have Rodgers or Love at QB. Whether Adams is here or not. Whether we are 13-3 or 7-10.
Pack93z
a year ago
"Totally on me"... year after year, at some point MLF has to change. At this point, no actually last offseason, it is now on MLF.


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
a year ago
Defense wasn't the issue today either, despite injuries
Go Packers!!!!
bboystyle
a year ago
I rest my case about MLF and his offense. No excuses. He is done and its time to move on. Cant even beat the lowly Broncos and the Packers have scored the lowest points in the first half of games since the 1980s.


Anyone else still need to use young and injury excuse?


This has been an issue for a couple of years now as i stated before.

His press conferences are the same lost babble every week. Reminds of the MM pressers when we would get blown out against an elite team except MM knew how to best crappy teams while we lose to them under MLF

Pack93z
a year ago
Is the sole reason we are losing is the struggling defense. No. But the struggling offense got a lead late in the game, the defense needs to put that game away. Football is never just one thing, but with a young, inconsistent offense, when they do succeed you need to capitalize and hold that.

Earlier in the game, our D staff decided this was the best they could trot out there on defense with a heavy set on offense shifted to one side. The one place where we have size and numbers is defensive line, when you set your players up to fail, they feed off that. For someone like Rodgers last year, it is disheartening to know that even when you succeed, the coaches will fail you. Ask a player, see how hard they are willing to fight when your coaches do this shit over and over.

Let Mike Whale tell you as well.



Rudy Ford has zero chance of holding up here. The whole defense and offense knows it.. it is this shit that cannot happen if you are a NFL coordinator.

Think that shit doesn't affect a team. It certainly does.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
beast
a year ago
Bitch at the defensive coordinator if he doesn't try anything different....

Bitch at the the defensive coordinator if he does do anything different.

Just bitch at the defensive even if it's clearly better than the offense and special teams...

It's always the defense fault!
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