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beast
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a year ago

I get it, way too early, BUT it's a bye week, after two losses, and one or two points from being four straight losses. So what else is there to talk about?

Mainly talking players changes here, but I'm sure a lot think some coaching changes need to be made as well.

Also whom needs to re-signed or let go?

What position are the highest positions of need?

Packers 2024 FAs (starters bolded)
RB Dillon
TE Dugara
TE Davis
RG Runyan
OT Nijman
OLB Gary
OLB Hollins
ILB Wilson
CB Nixon
S Savage
S Ford
S Owens
S Leavitt

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beast
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a year ago

I'll go first ... Linemen linemen linemen.

Both offensive and defensive current schemes (which are very popular around the NFL right now, and good chance we might get someday again, even if coaches are switched) put more pressure on the linemen.

Right now, the OL lacks talent as a lot of the OL have not lived up to their draft status, and it appears (to me) Gute is not good at selecting OL.

DL, is alright in talent, BUT they can't seem to handle the additional pressure of the scheme helping the DBs and leaving them more on an island up front. And against better OLs (which we don't play that many of the best OL this year), against the better OL, they either need to get out of the scheme or additional dominant player.

Also, the defense scheme needs S and slot CB... improvement, to help the middle of the field.

And the offense needs more TEs/FBs as the scheme is based on versatility of having multiple mid-sized bodies that can do multiple things. Right now, we just got Musgrave. Though Sims is showing some potential, and three of them are rookies with possible potential to grow... but... Gute's draft history with TEs and 3rd round picks isn't pretty either.

But mostly linemen.

civic
Member

a year ago

Quarterback?
Love is a free agent in 2025.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

a year ago

Quarterback?
Love is a free agent in 2025.

Originally Posted by: civic

Did you say this after week five in 2008 about Aaron Rodgers?

beast
Select Member Topic Starter

a year ago

Did you say this after week five in 2008 about Aaron Rodgers?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I think Rodgers looked much better than Love did
... of course, he also had a much much much better offense unit, including a number of established veterans including a competent OL to work with as well.

Kinda hard to fully read Love with a poor OL. But it seems like his mind is pretty good, but his accuracy is iffy. Of course, I think some of that is young receivers not being on the same page as the QB when they need to read and react to the defense.

civic
Member

a year ago

I’m not judging Love.
I’m thinking salary cap and Gutey’s past actions to keep the QB position stocked.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

a year ago

I’m not judging Love.
I’m thinking salary cap and Gutey’s past actions to keep the QB position stocked.

Originally Posted by: civic

But you are dodging my question. 😉

You bring up a fair point here about the GM going all in. Ted Thompson didn't make such moves in 2006 and 2007 that robbed the cupboards for 2008. I'm glad Brian Gutekunst went "all in" trying to capitalize on that Super Bowl window.

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUT maybe that splurge in 2019 is what opened that window and by doing that we were already stretched super thin? Maybe in 2019 just steadying the course, make solid tier 2 (financially speaking) signings and draft would have been better?

civic
Member

a year ago

Me?? Dodging questions? You been talking to my ex-wife?😀

I don’t entirely disagree with your read on 2019.

My point is a reload can go to a rebuild with a few things that are out of the GM’s hands. Injuries, free agency or a player forcing his way out (Adams) are things Gutey has to prepare for.

Although I’m with Beast give me blue chip lineman.

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beast
Select Member Topic Starter

a year ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I can't say he went truly went all in, he refused to sign WR Odell Beckham Jr. whom wanted to sign with eh Packers to play with Aaron Rodgers, and which I think that cost the Packers the Super Bowl, which OBJ did put the Rams over the top.

But yeah, he certainly doubled down and he certainly went in for those years, but he left some on the table.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

a year ago

#10

Originally Posted by: beast

This is incorrect about Odell. At least according to him. He wanted Rams. Packers didn't refuse to sign him either. That's a presumption made by the media because of the reported offer.

You can argue semantics about all in, whatever. But when you consider what Packers did via free agency years prior, I it certainly falls within the realm of all in.

All in for the other 31 teams? Eh yoh probably got a valid point haha. But for Packers, yeah, the phrase fits.

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