Team/Draft Needs · PACKERSHOME

beast
Select Member Topic Starter

a year ago

I get it, way too early, BUT it's a bye week, after two losses, and one or two points from being four straight losses. So what else is there to talk about?

Mainly talking players changes here, but I'm sure a lot think some coaching changes need to be made as well.

Also whom needs to re-signed or let go?

What position are the highest positions of need?

Packers 2024 FAs (starters bolded)
RB Dillon
TE Dugara
TE Davis
RG Runyan
OT Nijman
OLB Gary
OLB Hollins
ILB Wilson
CB Nixon
S Savage
S Ford
S Owens
S Leavitt

Wanna join the discussion?! Login to your PACKERSHOME forum account or Register a new forum account

beast
Select Member Topic Starter

a year ago

I'll go first ... Linemen linemen linemen.

Both offensive and defensive current schemes (which are very popular around the NFL right now, and good chance we might get someday again, even if coaches are switched) put more pressure on the linemen.

Right now, the OL lacks talent as a lot of the OL have not lived up to their draft status, and it appears (to me) Gute is not good at selecting OL.

DL, is alright in talent, BUT they can't seem to handle the additional pressure of the scheme helping the DBs and leaving them more on an island up front. And against better OLs (which we don't play that many of the best OL this year), against the better OL, they either need to get out of the scheme or additional dominant player.

Also, the defense scheme needs S and slot CB... improvement, to help the middle of the field.

And the offense needs more TEs/FBs as the scheme is based on versatility of having multiple mid-sized bodies that can do multiple things. Right now, we just got Musgrave. Though Sims is showing some potential, and three of them are rookies with possible potential to grow... but... Gute's draft history with TEs and 3rd round picks isn't pretty either.

But mostly linemen.

civic
Member

a year ago

Quarterback?
Love is a free agent in 2025.

blank

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

a year ago

Quarterback?
Love is a free agent in 2025.

Originally Posted by: civic

Did you say this after week five in 2008 about Aaron Rodgers?

beast
Select Member Topic Starter

a year ago

Did you say this after week five in 2008 about Aaron Rodgers?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I think Rodgers looked much better than Love did
... of course, he also had a much much much better offense unit, including a number of established veterans including a competent OL to work with as well.

Kinda hard to fully read Love with a poor OL. But it seems like his mind is pretty good, but his accuracy is iffy. Of course, I think some of that is young receivers not being on the same page as the QB when they need to read and react to the defense.

civic
Member

a year ago

I’m not judging Love.
I’m thinking salary cap and Gutey’s past actions to keep the QB position stocked.

blank

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

a year ago

I’m not judging Love.
I’m thinking salary cap and Gutey’s past actions to keep the QB position stocked.

Originally Posted by: civic

But you are dodging my question. 😉

You bring up a fair point here about the GM going all in. Ted Thompson didn't make such moves in 2006 and 2007 that robbed the cupboards for 2008. I'm glad Brian Gutekunst went "all in" trying to capitalize on that Super Bowl window.

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUT maybe that splurge in 2019 is what opened that window and by doing that we were already stretched super thin? Maybe in 2019 just steadying the course, make solid tier 2 (financially speaking) signings and draft would have been better?

civic
Member

a year ago

Me?? Dodging questions? You been talking to my ex-wife?😀

I don’t entirely disagree with your read on 2019.

My point is a reload can go to a rebuild with a few things that are out of the GM’s hands. Injuries, free agency or a player forcing his way out (Adams) are things Gutey has to prepare for.

Although I’m with Beast give me blue chip lineman.

blank

beast
Select Member Topic Starter

a year ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I can't say he went truly went all in, he refused to sign WR Odell Beckham Jr. whom wanted to sign with eh Packers to play with Aaron Rodgers, and which I think that cost the Packers the Super Bowl, which OBJ did put the Rams over the top.

But yeah, he certainly doubled down and he certainly went in for those years, but he left some on the table.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

a year ago

#10

Originally Posted by: beast

This is incorrect about Odell. At least according to him. He wanted Rams. Packers didn't refuse to sign him either. That's a presumption made by the media because of the reported offer.

You can argue semantics about all in, whatever. But when you consider what Packers did via free agency years prior, I it certainly falls within the realm of all in.

All in for the other 31 teams? Eh yoh probably got a valid point haha. But for Packers, yeah, the phrase fits.

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

Zero2Cool (7h) : doubt he wants to face the speedsters

beast (7h) : Dolphins offense can be explosive... I wonder if we'll have Alexander back

Zero2Cool (9h) : No Doubs could be issue Thursday

Mucky Tundra (14h) : Bears. Santos. Blocked FG

Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : Bears. Vikings. OT

Mucky Tundra (24-Nov) : Thems the breaks I guess

Mucky Tundra (24-Nov) : Two players out and Williams had an injury designation this week but Oladapo is a healthy scratch

Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : Packers inactives vs 49ers: • CB Jaire Alexander • S Kitan Oladapo • LB Edgerrin Cooper • OL Jacob Monk

TheKanataThrilla (24-Nov) : Aaron Jones with a costly red zone fumble

Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : When we trade Malik for a 1st rounder, we'll need a new QB2.

packerfanoutwest (23-Nov) : Report: Aaron Rodgers wants to play in 2025, but not for the Jets

beast (23-Nov) : That's what I told the Police officer about my speed when he pulled me over

packerfanoutwest (23-Nov) : NFL told Bears that Packers’ blocked field goal was legal

packerfanoutwest (22-Nov) : 49ers are underdogs at Packers, ending streak of 36 straight games as favorites

Zero2Cool (22-Nov) : 49ers might be down their QB, DL, TE and LT?

packerfanoutwest (22-Nov) : Jaire Alexander says he has a torn PCL

Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : Even with the context it's ... what?

Mucky Tundra (20-Nov) : Matt LaFleur without context: “I don’t wanna pat you on the butt and you poop in my hand.”

beast (20-Nov) : We brought in a former Packers OL coach to help evaluate OL as a scout

beast (20-Nov) : Jets have been pretty good at picking DL

Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He landed good players thanks to high draft slot. He isn't good.

Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He can shove his knowledge up his ass. He knows nothing.

beast (20-Nov) : More knowledge, just like bring in the Jets head coach

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : What? Why? Huh?

beast (19-Nov) : I wonder if the Packers might to try to bring Douglas in through Milt Hendrickson/Ravens connections

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : The Jets fired Joe Douglas, per sources

packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Jets are a mess......

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Pretty sure Jets fired their scouting staff and just pluck former Packers.

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Jets sign Anders Carlson to their 53.

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : When you cycle the weeks, the total over remains for season. But you get your W/L for that selected week. Confusing.

packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks

packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the totals are accurate..nrvrtmind

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : I don't follow what you are saying. The totals are not the same as last week.

packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : ok so then wht are the totals the same as last week?

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : NFL Pick'em is auto updated when NFL Scores tab is clicked

Martha Careful (19-Nov) : The offense was OK. Let's not forget the Bear defense is very very good.

packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Who updates the leaderboard on NFLPickem?

beast (19-Nov) : Has the Packers offense been worse since the former Jets coach joined the Packers?

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Offense gets his ass in gear, this could be good.

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Backup QB helped with three wins. Special Teams contributed to three wins.

bboystyle (18-Nov) : Lions played outside thats why. They scored 16 and 17 in the only 2 outside games this year

Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : The rest of the NFL is catching up to Packers ... kicking is an issue throughout league

packerfanoutwest (18-Nov) : Packers DL Kenny Clark: We knew 'we were going to block' Bears' game-winning field goal attempt

Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Lions seem to be throttling everyone, but only (only) got 24 lol maybe the rain is why

Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Packers vs Lions game doesn't seem so bad.

beast (18-Nov) : Dennis Green "They are what we thought they were, and we let them off the hook!"

Martha Careful (17-Nov) : comment of the day Z2Cool "Bears better than we want to admit. Packers worse than we think. It's facts."

Mucky Tundra (17-Nov) : my worst case scenario: Bears fix their oline and get a coach like Johnson from the Lions and his scheme

Zero2Cool (17-Nov) : Bears get OL fixed amd we might have a problem

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2024 Packers Schedule

Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM

Eagles

29 - 34

Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM

COLTS

16 - 10

Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM

Titans

30 - 14

Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

29 - 31

Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM

Rams

24 - 19

Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM

CARDINALS

34 - 13

Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM

TEXANS

24 - 22

Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM

Jaguars

30 - 27

Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM

LIONS

14 - 24

Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM

Bears

20 - 19

Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM

49ERS

38 - 10

Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM

DOLPHINS

Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM

Lions

Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM

Seahawks

Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM

SAINTS

Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM

Vikings

Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM

BEARS