Wow, all these harsh reactions to us getting crushed by the Lions. I mean we have the youngest team in the NFL and playing all backup linemen against a good to great pass rush. I didn't hear anyone screaming for the Packers to grab an O-lineman with their 1st round pick this year, instead, we drafted a guy that barely gets on the field. People just need to chill and just remember we are going to have growing pains with a 1st-year starter at QB and rookies and 2nd-year wideouts. The part that does piss me off is seeing our defense constantly getting run over by a running back and our DBS throwing a shoulder and hoping the runner will fall down. I mean can't a DB use their arms to wrap up a runner? I said it last night I would love to know how many yards we give up after contact.
Side note we do have to remember we are spending a ton of money on an injured CB an injured LT an injured ILB and what the hell happened to Kenny Clark does he even play anymore?
Originally Posted by: dhazer
In fairness, I've been bitching about the OL selected for years, this isn't one game thing.
Gute passed on the hyped Center and selected Meyers, only for the hyped Center to be an all pro year after year drafted one pick after Meyers.
But for those that follow the draft and know lineman, Gute has made a questionable picks, you give him the benefit of the doubt as he's supposed to do the expert, but not a single one is developing.
Except Tom, but I was telling people Tom is the next Bakhtiari before the draft, and Packers scouted Tom to the interior, and I have no freaking clue how you pick Rhyan over him.
If you didn't hear a few people screaming for the the Packers to take OT Broderick Jones then you don't follow that kind of thing closely as there was absolutely a group of them, and just to be clear, not an OT, but Jones specifically. They fell in love with him pre-draft.
But of course if you really follow the draft, you would notice Gute has a general
pattern, 1st round defense, 2nd, 3rd and 4th round offense. (At least when not using the 4th round pick to trade up), so why call for an offensive player in the first when Gute doesn't usually take them until round 2?
The part that does piss me off is seeing our defense constantly getting run over by a running back and our DBS throwing a shoulder and hoping the runner will fall down. I mean can't a DB use their arms to wrap up a runner? I said it last night I would love to know how many yards we give up after contact
Originally Posted by: dhazer
Exactly, that's part of my point, Gute's has a lot of good athletic selections, but his lineman, both in offense and on defense, and TEs in the 3rd round, have mostly disappointed, you are making my point.
Gute has used a lot of draft capital on OL and DL and hasn't gotten much out of it.
And as for Clark, I believe he plays a lot, but he's been getting worse each year (according to PFF since like 2018), he's just not the same player he used to be. Last year he was just slightly above average, and this year (so far) is slightly below average.
This defensive scheme helps coverage deep and leaves the guys up front out to dry... meaning it's easier to run on. It needs dominant DL for it to work well and Packers simply don't have it, which is why it'll struggle against the better OLs, which Falcons are ranked top 10 OL by PFF and Lions top 5. The good news is currently ranked, the Packers only have two more games against currently top 10 PFF ranked OL in the Buccaneers and Lions (again).
So in theory, the Defense should improve simply by not haven't many top 10 OL left to play.