Pugger
3 years ago

True, but what exactly is a coach supposed do? Kick a player while he's down? Let the media and fans dig into him?

Or be a leader, take blame and distract for the horrible play?

Yes they weren't nessarily practicing and planning for all the Cover 0, and that is the offensive coaches fault but the fact of the matter is they clearly plays left on the field by the QB, even when he made the right read, he made a piss poor throw.

LaFleur failed to maximum his guys, but Love failed to make even some the routine stuff happen that you expect from any and all veteran QBs including the 2nd and 3rd string veteran QB.

That's not to damn him, or say it's not all fixable... And I'm good with an incomplete grade, but if we have to give a grade based on what small sample has been provided, it sure isn't going to be a good one.

Also, something to note, some in the past have said Love in year 2, looks better than Rodgers in year 2. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with that... but I remember thinking Rodgers extremely sucks his first 2 or 3 years. So maybe that's true...

But just so far the grade should be bad, not saying it won't become a lot better in the future.

Originally Posted by: beast 



IMO in 2021 Love was basically a rookie. in 2020 he didn't have any spring workouts or hardly played any preseason games and was always the 3rd stringer. He never even suited up for a regular season game. I'll be more concerned if we don't see improvement in his play this coming season.

beast
3 years ago

IMO in 2021 Love was basically a rookie. in 2020 he didn't have any spring workouts or hardly played any preseason games and was always the 3rd stringer. He never even suited up for a regular season game. I'll be more concerned if we don't see improvement in his play this coming season.

Originally Posted by: Pugger 



I can absolutely agree with that. I've said before the draft that I think Love is a 3 year development guy and since then have said I'm not sure that rookie year counts with no/limited preseason work due to Covid and he was the #3 QB which normally #3 QBs don't get enough snaps to develop in the current CBA.

“I think this preseason is important for him,” Packers CEO Mark Murphy said in an interview with Tom Grossi of Packast. “We think he can be a good player, but we haven’t really seen enough. So I think this preseason will be good for him.

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nerdmann
3 years ago


LaFleur failed to maximum his guys, but Love failed to make even some the routine stuff happen that you expect from any and all veteran QBs including the 2nd and 3rd string veteran QB.



Absolutely disagree with this. Love knows where to go with the ball, he is just inconsistent with ball placement. He puts the ball into the window, just not consistently.

Again, part of it was not having timing down with Davante, part of it was the rookie RG getting consistently beat on inside stunts. Part of it was just Love, not leading the WR enough.

To say that Love made no progress or failed to do anything is ridiculous. After all he statistically outplayed Mahomes on that day.
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beast
3 years ago

Absolutely disagree with this. Love knows where to go with the ball, he is just inconsistent with ball placement. He puts the ball into the window, just not consistently.

Again, part of it was not having timing down with Davante, part of it was the rookie RG getting consistently beat on inside stunts. Part of it was just Love, not leading the WR enough.

To say that Love made no progress or failed to do anything is ridiculous. After all he statistically outplayed Mahomes on that day.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


You keep using Mahomes as a crutch excuse, just because Mahomes struggled doesn't mean a thing for Love, as they were facing different teams. Love would of looked even worse if he was playing against the Packers defense too.

The rookie RG was getting consistently beat because they were going on zero coverage blitzes, in other words all out blitzes... where they're bringing one more rusher than you got blockers and not every blocker is going to win, so the fact that was a pass rush is an bullshit excuse, because that's in the definition of a zero coverage blitz there will be a rusher there within 3 seconds.

And you don't see it often at the NFL because normal smart QBs eat it up... only young QBs usually fail when it's done often and QBs know it's coming.

The QB has all the matchups in one on one, he's got to find one and get the ball out quick against zero coverage blitzes... there is only the excuse that no one is quickly getting open. And that excuse fails when you consider Adams was playing and getting open quickly....


And no Love's chemistry with Adams didn't suck, it was Love's chemistry with the Packers scheme that sucked.

Love absolutely failed to read the matchups and go through the progressions quickly... hell, he probably would of been better off just staring down Adams until they got out of the zero coverage blitzes, instead of going through progressions.

I'm certainly not saying Love isn't growing, but he absolutely failed the zero coverage blitz test... which I would expect has half decent veteran (even a veteran#3 QB) to pass, as it's more mental than physical. He didn't know where to quickly go with the ball when the defense sent one more rusher than they had blockers.

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bboystyle
3 years ago
If Rashan continues to be consistent and Stokes comes full from the flashes he shown, then its safe to say Brian has beaten all previous GMs not named wolfe in the first round.

His only blunder is not only drafting Love, but trading up to grab a project QB. Bad decision
Zero2Cool
3 years ago

If Rashan continues to be consistent and Stokes comes full from the flashes he shown, then its safe to say Brian has beaten all previous GMs not named wolfe in the first round.

His only blunder is not only drafting Love, but trading up to grab a project QB. Bad decision

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 



I'd say he'd beat Ron Wolf too.

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