Porforis
6 years ago

The play would have been upheld if if challenged. The NFL is saying it was a penalty and not a mistake.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



Typically the NFL avoids contradicting their refs, especially with game-altering calls, unless it is completely and utterly blatant to the point of being absurd. NFL protecting their own, and also playing politics to try to defend a widely criticized rule change (even if in reality, it's not being properly applied).

If you enact rules wherein refs on the field can be overturned in real time via a challenge, versus making the NFL choose sides well after the fact and after a bad call turns into the difference between a win and a tie, then it becomes less of a political issue.
dhazer
6 years ago

I can see what you are talking about with the torquing of the body but IMO you are looking for something to justify the call. You are right that it isn't there on Clay's hit

IMO neither hit should be a penalty.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



The thing is with Matthews play is you see him driving his shoulder into Cousins midsection. You can see his numbers at the end from driving into him. I agreed with the call when I first saw it. Remember this is the Rodgers Rule.
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Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago
With all due respect, Dave, you're being contrarian purely for the sake of sticking it to Rodgers. You are the only person in the world outside of 345 Park Avenue who sees anything remotely like what you describe.
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wpr
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6 years ago

Eli was getting pummeled far worse than Cousins last night. Heck even Tom Brady took a worse shot. It seems the league gets rid of one means to control the outcome of the game with the catch rule and replaced it with another. Is this the NFL getting to be WWE NFL, before the XFL comes back?

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



As I was saying yesterday and earlier today, if they had a different ref team calling the game the penalty would not have been called.
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6 years ago

Typically the NFL avoids contradicting their refs, especially with game-altering calls, unless it is completely and utterly blatant to the point of being absurd. NFL protecting their own, and also playing politics to try to defend a widely criticized rule change (even if in reality, it's not being properly applied).

If you enact rules wherein refs on the field can be overturned in real time via a challenge, versus making the NFL choose sides well after the fact and after a bad call turns into the difference between a win and a tie, then it becomes less of a political issue.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



There was a lot of self righteous proclamation of "the ref made the correct call" on the fail mary interception by NFL Inc too.
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6 years ago

I vote no. I vote less rules and the remaining rules need to be more black/white. If there's too much of a gray area or judgement needed, then the rule should be changed to be more black/white. Let the fans enjoy the damn moment of the game instead of tempering excitement waiting for a flag, or no flag.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I have been favor of less rules for years. This wouldn't be a new rule. It would be taking the human err out of the existing rules. 3 min for review and then move on. 2 min even. You can watch a boat load of replays in 90 sec.

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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

The thing is with Matthews play is you see him driving his shoulder into Cousins midsection. You can see his numbers at the end from driving into him. I agreed with the call when I first saw it. Remember this is the Rodgers Rule.

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