Zero2Cool
14 years ago
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1-8	6	14
9-16	4	3
17+	10	1

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Greg C.
14 years ago

but the real issue here is how he plays at the end.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I thought you'd probably bring this up. It certainly is the biggest weakness in my argument. Rodgers' performance does seem to plummet in the last drive of games.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



If how he plays at the end is the "real issue" yet we're gonna use 1 - 11 in games decided by 4 points as less as a barometer in our comments?

I think the real issue is people wanting to point fingers but are too damn lazy to make sure they're going off credible information.

Every play Rodgers has taken for the Packers since he started is available at NFL.com

In my little opinion, if you want to judge a QB on winning close games, you need to dig in to the facts, not the end result score. Go through the play by play. If the QB has the ball within say the last 5 minutes of the game, what was the outcome? Did he throw an interception that gave the team another chance to increase their lead? Did he make good throws, but were dropped, did he make bad throws? Fumble the ball? Did he sustain a drive that got us in FG range, but the kicker was blocked or shanked the kick? Did he get us a score only for us to lose in over time? How did we lose in overtime, did he have a chance to win it or was he buried inside his 15 yard line and didn't use proper audibles?

I could go on for quite awhile here ... but fact is, Rodgers is in his third season as a starting and his 5th season overall. We're not gonna know if he has it to pull it out in close games until we have more close games under his belt.

One would think the 7 in '08 would have taught him something, and his damn coach.

"Greg C." wrote:



This is all very true. Unfortunately, I'm not the guy who can make this analysis because (like most of us here, probably) I work 40 hours a week and I do have somewhat of a life outside of being a Packer fan. There's a limit to how much time I can put into this stuff.

So I have to go by my memory, having watched every game Rodgers has played in, and watched many of them a second time on tape. My conclusion is that Rodgers has played okay at the ends of close games. Not great and not horrible. He has led a few successful drives, only to see his work undone by missed field goals (albeit they were long attempts) or bad defense when the other team got the ball back. But there have been other times where the offense under Rodgers fizzled or turned the ball over. I think those have been the majority.

Again, this is not all Aaron's fault by any means. But three years in, he has not really begun to establish himself as a clutch QB.
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