The issue is not about whether Hoyer was good enough. It's about the fact Mike McCarthy said his room was set and then we hear Packers tried bringing in a FA especially after going ballistic on CK7 mention. It was a lie that Mike McCarthy was good with his QB room. Just more dreaded coach speak.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

Well, if Ted didn't push hard enough for Randy Moss, Marshawn Lynch, and Tony Gonzalez why would he push hard enough for Hoyer?

It's speculation, but how do we know Hoyer was offered the starting job? Perhaps, he was told he could come in to be Hundley's backup, and assume the role if Hundley tanked again on MNF? What would you rather do? Be Brady's backup and have a real chance at a ring, or backup Brett Hundley on a season that appears to be fading fast? Maybe, he looked at the situation in Green Bay and realized he had no shot of succeeding here with what we have vs. what they have in NE?

Most importantly is what Buck brought up... 3 year deal vs. what I would guess was a lesser deal from us?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

I mean if he's not your guy, then why is he on the roster?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

Mike McCarthy: "As far as pursuing any player, I personally was not involved in any conversations – especially with a veteran quarterback."

I'm sure Ted will have his back and come right out and say something.

Interesting that he didn't deny that the org spoke with Hoyer's reps.

EDIT: Here's MM:

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

[Face Palm] OMFG, Mike lied?! Impeach his ass! WTFlyingF. The argument that a football coach lying is wrong/problematic is frightening, it's embarrassing. There seems to be an intellectual refusal to understand or consider how lockerrooms work.

EVERY coach has, will and absolutely MUST deceive to protect their players the "press." A coach that doesn’t do this is called an ex-coach.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 

You stated earlier that this whole thing was fabricated by his agent which made no sense. You claimed this never happened. It's pretty clear from watching Mike McCarthy that it most certainly did happen.

Oh, I get it. Coach speak is a pet peeve. I just shake my head at those who want to base their opinions off what Mike McCarthy says.

This clip is so sweetly revealing. He couldn't be much more uncomfortable. Would you buy a product from a guy giving you this body language and rambling answer? For a second, I thought someone asked a political question and I was watching a politician spin on CNN.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

I said GB's "depth" of interest was exaggerated by the agent; because NO ONE at 1265 will announce GB has an interest in a QB right now, NO ONE [unless "leaking" it creates some sort of advantage]. Of course it could have been contrived by a sensationalist or careless reporter too. One thing we know is that if GB is looking to replace Hundley; we'll never know 'til its done. If today GB sends three 1st rounders to NE for Brady. Mike will say, "I'm just looking at Lions game and my starter for that game is Hundley!" Ad Mike will claim Hundley is his starter 'til hes not!

That said 1265 would have a due diligent interest in Hoyer even if Rodgers was 100% healthy and EVERY OTHER PLAYER CUT.

Who bases their opinion off of what Mike McCarthy says ON something like this?

Originally Posted by: Barfarn