Barfarn
9 years ago

I've read the same thing about Janis, but he's already been in the system. Kind of makes you wonder about him.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



The problem is every thing we read is not specific evaluations from the staff. And ya cant trust a word the staff says to a reporter. EG, "we trust Barclay;" then on first not quick pass play, Sitton and Starks are over helping...LOL, ya sure you trust him! [I'm not complaining, keeping things in house is an important part of being a winner-just stating a reality].
Ted Thompson has never [and rightly so] said a substantive thing to the press. What did he say at one of those draft PCs, I have no secrets, but if I did i wouldn't tell you....LOL

If Janis is not developing he'll stay 2nd string and when playing will play only one position 'cause they don't trust him to play others and if by now he cant play two, then he probably doesn't have adequate football acumen to play in GB's system.

You wanna know what TT's thinking, ya watch his actions or nonactions, not his words. If GB dont make a move, they're confident in Janis [or Abby].

But it's possible Ted Thompson decides he wants Jones, Wayne, Nicks, Parker or Collie; calls them and they all say NO. Then some will cry Ted Thompson did nothing, but he did all he could, we just wont ever hear of it.
Barfarn
9 years ago

It could be worse, fans could be pining to trade a late round draft pick for a former Packers WR.

[whead]

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Jones will be cut; I'd wait rather than give up a pick.

But what about trading Fanor or swapping a pick, giving them our 6 for a 7. Moving back probably 10-15 spots probably wont even change the guy we would have otherwise drafted. If it did, we'd certainly get a guy in the same talent tier and position group.

Cap wise It'd cost us only 200K more for Jones than the salary of the 53rd guy. And hopefully 53rd guy makes PS. Then the only cost is the reps Jones takes from the youngsters.
DoddPower
9 years ago

Jones will be cut; I'd wait rather than give up a pick.

But what about trading Fanor or swapping a pick, giving them our 6 for a 7. Moving back probably 10-15 spots probably wont even change the guy we would have otherwise drafted. If it did, we'd certainly get a guy in the same talent tier and position group.

Cap wise It'd cost us only 200K more for Jones than the salary of the 53rd guy. And hopefully 53rd guy makes PS. Then the only cost is the reps Jones takes from the youngsters.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



If Jones gets cut, it'd be great to have him. But I don't want the Packers to trade anything for him other than a player that isn't going to make the roster anyway. If Jones can't make the Giants as a #3-4 WR, then he obviously has lost yet another step and won't be of much use for the Packers.
texaspackerbacker
9 years ago
The ONLY good thing from this whole mess is it allows us to not cut a talented WR - Pinkard now moves up to #5 unless you count Abbrederis. That opens the door slightly for White or Williams or Blue.

Let's NOT mess that up by going for some overripe player who chose to leave and is on the downside of his career.

Among the MANY options at Receiver, I wouldn't mind seeing our talented and athletic 3rd string QB get some work out there - maybe an occasional trick play, etc.
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago

Jones will be cut; I'd wait rather than give up a pick.

But what about trading Fanor or swapping a pick, giving them our 6 for a 7. Moving back probably 10-15 spots probably wont even change the guy we would have otherwise drafted. If it did, we'd certainly get a guy in the same talent tier and position group.

Cap wise It'd cost us only 200K more for Jones than the salary of the 53rd guy. And hopefully 53rd guy makes PS. Then the only cost is the reps Jones takes from the youngsters.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



The Andre Rison comparison blows my mind. Not from you, someone else. The James Jones situation is more like Matt Flynn than Andre Rison if you ask me, and you know you did! 😲

If Jones gets released, I would definitely bring him in because bringing him in won't hurt.

I absolutely would not trade any pick for him though. And you know if the Packers traded a 6th rounder for Jones, you'd hear someone saying "that 6th round could have been next Tom Brady, stupid Ted!!" and if it's a 7th rounder same said person will whine "that stupid Thompson, that 7th rounder he wasted on Jones could have been the next Donald Driver!!"

You jokers know who you are, I don't need to point fingers. [bdance]


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uffda udfa
9 years ago

The Andre Rison comparison blows my mind. Not from you, someone else. The James Jones situation is more like Matt Flynn than Andre Rison if you ask me, and you know you did! 😲

If Jones gets released, I would definitely bring him in because bringing him in won't hurt.

I absolutely would not trade any pick for him though. And you know if the Packers traded a 6th rounder for Jones, you'd hear someone saying "that 6th round could have been next Tom Brady, stupid Ted!!" and if it's a 7th rounder same said person will whine "that stupid Thompson, that 7th rounder he wasted on Jones could have been the next Donald Driver!!"

You jokers know who you are, I don't need to point fingers. [bdance]

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



If you're referring to me on the Rison thing I'm lost as to why it blows your mind? We lost Brooks and Wolf IMMEDIATELY acted to remedy that situation. No situation will ever show the difference in methodology than this one. Ted Thompson will just sit on his hands and do nothing while Ron would've done something ASAP because he knew his team was close and he didn't want to squander the opportunity. Liking the guys you've got is fine in most cases...not sure it is in this situation but Barfarn has echoed what I've said...if he does like the guys he's got he ain't gonna do a thing. If he doesn't something is going to happen very quickly as it should.

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DarkaneRules
9 years ago
Y'all stop picking on Uffda. Anyway, I truly hope Pinkard sticks around. I cannot put my finger on it, but something about what I have seen so far makes me think he has too much upside to try and stash on the PS. I'd feel better stashing a couple TEs on there and keep a 6th receiver.
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nerdmann
9 years ago

Y'all stop picking on Uffda.

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules 



Has someone made fun of the "88 Cent" nickname? lol
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nerdmann
9 years ago

Jones will be cut; I'd wait rather than give up a pick.

But what about trading Fanor or swapping a pick, giving them our 6 for a 7. Moving back probably 10-15 spots probably wont even change the guy we would have otherwise drafted. If it did, we'd certainly get a guy in the same talent tier and position group.

Cap wise It'd cost us only 200K more for Jones than the salary of the 53rd guy. And hopefully 53rd guy makes PS. Then the only cost is the reps Jones takes from the youngsters.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



Send them Banjo. They need a S, worse than we need a WR.
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sschind
9 years ago

Ripkowski and Hundley complicate keeping 6. Good news is our TE's suck so bad we won't be keeping any more than 3. We're going to have 3 QB's and 2 FB's.

Thinking Abberederis and Pinkard get cut and go to PS.

Cobb, Adams, Janis, 88 cent and White are the 5 we keep. Not thrilled with that group but I'm guessing now due to Nelson's injury White wins last spot just because he has been around for 3 years now...gives him big advantage considering how little experience we have at the position. Pinkard beats White if Jordy doesn't go down as he has better upside and fitment for this offense.


Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



What do you mean you are not thrilled with this group. Did you forget that it doesn't matter who we have at WR because its all Aaron Rodgers anyway. Who needs experience when AR is throwing the ball.
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