uffda udfa
9 years ago

What do you mean you are not thrilled with this group. Did you forget that it doesn't matter who we have at WR because its all Aaron Rodgers anyway. Who needs experience when Aaron Rodgers is throwing the ball.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



First off...I don't like Myles White...that is part of it. I don't think much of Davante, that is the other part. Davante went from a guy I didn't think much of as our 3rd WR, and now he's got to be our top outside guy? What? That's unreal to me. I'm speaking from my perspective...I don't think much of him as you well know... now, he's going to be basically our #1 WR???? Yikes. Just yikes. I love RC18...Janis is a work in progress and 88 cent is a rookie that I love but he's a rookie. I do think 88 cent is a little scared out there. Doesn't look like a guy who loves contact. Barfarn mentioned that a long time ago and I've been honing in on that to see if he's full of it but I think he's right.

Pinkard is a guy I really really wish we'd keep but I think he's toast due to our overwhelming lack of experience already. I think Pinkard can be as good as anyone on our roster right now at WR. He's just too raw to keep, imo. Keeping him wouldn't even make me feel better because he's got too far to go for this season.

Abby would make me happy if he could get back. MR thinks he's our 3rd best WR. I think he could be as high as 2nd...he's probably better than Adams and only behind Cobb. Guy is smart and savvy. Just plays same position we really have a glut of guys at.

Yes, it doesn't matter as much because of 12 but rookies are going to frustrate the living pi$$ out of him and we know how he gets when he's frustrated on the field. Not liking the thought of that. Jordy is not that great talent wise...he's just a professional of the highest order who has had 7 years with Aaron. Any of our guys could be him given that amount of time with 12 but they have next to none. Jordy wasn't diddly for a few years.
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texaspackerbacker
9 years ago

What do you mean you are not thrilled with this group. Did you forget that it doesn't matter who we have at WR because its all Aaron Rodgers anyway. Who needs experience when Aaron Rodgers is throwing the ball.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



That may be sarcasm, but it's basically true. We do NOT need to go off half-cocked and give away something as well as cut somebody with decent potential just to pick up somebody we don't need and probably ain't much good anyway judging by the teams that have seen fit to get rid of him.


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DakotaT
9 years ago
Doesn't anybody remember winning the division year after year with Freeman, Bradford, and Schroeder? You guys really need to untwist the panties We have a lot more talent at WR now than trotting out Bradford and Schroeder. And yeah, having a pin point passer helps this problem.
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nerdmann
9 years ago

Doesn't anybody remember winning the division year after year with Freeman, Bradford, and Schroeder? You guys really need to untwist the panties We have a lot more talent at WR now than trotting out Bradford and Schroeder. And yeah, having a pin point passer helps this problem.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



James Jones still has some left in the tank. He would be the third WR on the roster who actually knows the play book. Well, maybe Abby.

But I still think we need a T more.
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uffda udfa
9 years ago

Doesn't anybody remember winning the division year after year with Freeman, Bradford, and Schroeder? You guys really need to untwist the panties We have a lot more talent at WR now than trotting out Bradford and Schroeder. And yeah, having a pin point passer helps this problem.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I recall finishing 2nd behind the Bears at 12-4 with Freeman, Schroeder, Bradford and a young Donald Driver in 2001. That year Ahman caught 62 balls.

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DakotaT
9 years ago

I recall finishing 2nd behind the Bears at 12-4 with Freeman, Schroeder, Bradford and a young Donald Driver in 2001. That year Ahman caught 62 balls.

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Yeah, but we beat them twice. We had a couple of those shitfest games.
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DakotaT
9 years ago

James Jones still has some left in the tank. He would be the third WR on the roster who actually knows the play book. Well, maybe Abby.

But I still think we need a T more.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Just let it go!
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago

If you're referring to me on the Rison thing I'm lost as to why it blows your mind? We lost Brooks and Wolf IMMEDIATELY acted to remedy that situation. No situation will ever show the difference in methodology than this one.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



I think you're more intelligent than the jokers I had described. You want the Packers to add a player at WR, I get that. The problem I have is any one actually thinking it would be wise to send a late round pick for a former WR who even during his best days was barely a #3 possession WR. Some of us fans get hooked on nostalgia.

Furthermore, if we lost Jordy Nelson after seven games and the Packers looked like a real Super Bowl contender around week 10 a starting WR like Andre Rison were available, you know the Packers would pull the trigger as evidenced by Howard Green being claimed off waivers from the Jets during 2010 season.

The Packers do not need another possession WR. They need a big speed guy to threaten the secondary and fortunately for the Packers, they may have him in none other than WR Jeff Janis.

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uffda udfa
9 years ago

Yeah, but we beat them twice. We had a couple of those shitfest games.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I'd have to look, but weren't Freeman, Schroeder and Corey around for awhile? Cobb is young, Davante is a 2nd year guy, as is Janis...then you have a rookie and a guy who did diddly in his few years here.

It isn't about talent. It's about TIME. Jordy is being lamented because of his "greatness"...it was more about his TIME with Aaron. That can't be replaced. No one in our WR room has close to the 7 years of working with Aaron 87 did. Any of the current guys given 7 years with Aaron would be as good or better than he was save for Myles White and I'm not sure he couldn't come somewhat close.

Talent behind Jordy is a secondary theme to me...it's about the lack of TIME the other guys on our roster have had with him. Randall is the ONLY guy we can really trust. It's made worse by not having a single reliable experienced threat at TE. Quarless has the TIME part he just never had the talent.

These kids have to grow up faster than they should've had to. If they can, we'll be just fine...if they can't, we're in trouble. Fun to see a new star develop. I hope I'm wrong on Adams and he's it.
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