Laser Gunns
10 years ago

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



Younger and lighter?

Worthy was 24, and 308lbs (an ideal weight for a 3/4 end).

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buckeyepackfan
10 years ago
What we have seen and what is happening behind closed doors are obviously two different things.

I'm not a component of running a bunch of kids out there, but Ted, Mike & co. obviously know more than they are putting out there.

Daniels has stepped up, Peppers is here, if Raji decides he wants to play like everyone knows he can and take on a leadership role, that's enough veteran influence.

I'm not even counting Guion, coaches say they have enough tape on him, they know what he can do.
I will be real surprised if he makes the final 53 unless he can get on the field sometime soon.

They must be counting on Perry, Jones and Boyd to really come on this year.

Only time will tell, but the fact is, The Packers front line is gonna be lacking experience at times.

Somebody else mentioned it, Jolly and Pickett are still available, if it comes to that, The Packers could do worse.
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DakotaT
10 years ago
I am very skeptical about Raji being the anchor nose tackle of this defense. I don't think he has 1/10th of the tenacity need to play that position, nor do I believe he has the desire for it. Raji should have gone to a team playing Tampa 2, where he could have shot gaps and made big plays. I'd really like to see Boyd step up and put Raji's on the bench.


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DoddPower
10 years ago

Younger and lighter?

Worthy was 24, and 308lbs (an ideal weight for a 3/4 end).

[duh]

Originally Posted by: Laser Gunns 



Was still a little short for a 3-4 defensive end, imo. I'd like to see more 6'4 to 6'5 guys weighing close to 300 lbs. I'm not really sure how Daniels will hold up as a base 3-4 end, either. He can rush the passer, but might not be as great playing the run. I'm not so sure at this point.
texaspackerbacker
10 years ago

but you need something to replace that subtraction with. Two of these guys WILL start this year - Raji, Boyd, D.Jones, Pennel, Thorton, Guion (if he can get on the field), Robinson, and Gray. Excluding Guion since he has yet to step on the field this TC, that's 7 years of experience, and three 2014 UDFAs.

As of now, it's looking like there's a chance that 1 of those UDFAs will make the team. They have 5 COMBINED starts for D1 programs that weren't even ranked in the top 25 last year. As for Pennel, who supposedly is the best of the UDFA group, this is what packersnews said about him this week...

Though the coaches at Colorado State-Pueblo liked Pennel, they thought he didn't dominate Division II like he should have. He finished 2013 with six tackles for a loss, three sacks, four passes knocked down and three forced fumbles, but he wasn't a full-time player because of the weight and conditioning issues.

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Originally Posted by: musccy 



I'm curious why Daniels wasn't on your list - he would seem to be at the top of it. I STRONGLY disagree that Pickett was or would be the best run-stopper or anywhere near it. Of course, somebody needs to replace the two subtracted. My point is that they had very little capability to move or tackle; they were downright easy to run around; just about anybody from your list would be an improvement.

As for Pennell, I haven't even seen him on TV, but apparently they think a lot of him. I think that had a lot to do with getting rid of Worthy for next to nothing. Hopefully, he is a mover and a tackler, not merely a space occupier - a Boyd, not a Pickett.

In the D Line especially, experience isn't everything. I'd much rather have talent and attitude. That's one reason I'm optimistic for this year. The other is the apparent change of philosophy exactly in the direction I have been calling for. If people want something to worry or be negative about, try ILB.


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QCHuskerFan
10 years ago
DL was possibly the biggest season long weakness on the team last year, so why the love for Pickett and Jolly?
Packers have moved on. So should we. They are trying some new players that may suck. But we know what the players they replaced were capable of. So let's roll the dice!
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musccy
10 years ago

I'm curious why Daniels wasn't on your list - he would seem to be at the top of it. I STRONGLY disagree that Pickett was or would be the best run-stopper or anywhere near it. Of course, somebody needs to replace the two subtracted. My point is that they had very little capability to move or tackle; they were downright easy to run around; just about anybody from your list would be an improvement.

As for Pennell, I haven't even seen him on TV, but apparently they think a lot of him. I think that had a lot to do with getting rid of Worthy for next to nothing. Hopefully, he is a mover and a tackler, not merely a space occupier - a Boyd, not a Pickett.

In the D Line especially, experience isn't everything. I'd much rather have talent and attitude. That's one reason I'm optimistic for this year. The other is the apparent change of philosophy exactly in the direction I have been calling for. If people want something to worry or be negative about, try ILB.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Assuming a 3-4 package, I had assumed Daniels was a no-brainer to start, so the other two would be the list. Also, not sure if the Pickett comments were directed at me or someone else, but I'm not really a Pickett advocate.

I know what you're saying about experience. Cobb and Lacy started with no experience going into their first seasons too. However, it's one thing to have no NFL experience, it's another to have no NFL and questionable productivity. Boyd, Jones, and Raji are lacking in either or both, and then the other UDFAs, like I mentioned before, have zero NFL exp. and weren't even all that productive or even starting for teams that weren't even top 25 D1.

buckeyepackfan
10 years ago
I don't no why some are seeing at showing "love" for Jolly and Pickett.

I look at it as another option that is out there if The Packers need experience Lineman for whatever reason.

I'm hoping The Packers don't have to, but it's good to know they are out there just in case.


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yooperfan
10 years ago

Back in the 80's I subscribed to Packer News and every single article was just like this one. I could not understand why the team was always around 8-8. All the "experts" that I was reading were telling me how good the team was.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Right on.
I subscribed to Packers Plus.
Damn, I miss those days.

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Right on.
I subscribed to Packers Plus.
Damn, I miss those days.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



I think I had that one too at one point in time.
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