El3ment12
11 years ago
A huge turning point in last years Playoff game was the Ross fumble. Rodgers and the offense was keeping up w/ them. It was looking to be a shootout and we finally got a stop. Then they get the fumble and score instantly.
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Having some free time I went to look at film of the 9ers.

On defense they are very basic, they play P.Willis and N.Bowman free behind the line of scrimmage, their assignment is to read the play and react. They are not very strong towards the sides.
If you have a smart QB (we do) then reading what #52 and #53 do is the key to get yards against the defense.
Screens can be very effective if they attack the line or a total failure if they drop in coverage.
If Rodgers manages to read what those two linebackers will do then they will be defending with 9 players almost in every play.
A flea flicker can be a very good weapon because #52 and #53 react inmediately to running plays leaving the middle of the field totally empty.

On the offense I found something very curious. You need to have all the defenders standing, when defenders get to the ground Kapernick -I don't know exactly why- reacts calmly and executes good plays. If all the defenders are standing he usually seems confused and the play gets broken.
So don't get down!

Linebackers need to perform randomly to confuse Kapernick if they bite to the run or drop in coverage just too quickly he will promptly execute the antidote play, when the linebackers are in-between the play usually gets broken.

Kapernick is also very very effective against 3 rushers, I think we would need to rush 4 or 5 in every play.

This is a very difficult game but I was surprised to find that the defense of the 9ers is very simple, maybe that is why it is also very effective but against a smart QB it can be a problem. Andrew Luck and Drew Brees did very well against this defense.


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QB Ratings

Outdoor Temp <40 F
Rodgers - 85.2
Kaepernick - 134.6


Windy conditions
Rodgers - 75.0
Kaepernick - 129.1
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11 years ago
It has been said, but I do think it will be our run defense that needs to step up this game. We are different in that we can now run the ball and people need to respect our ability to run. If we can even out the time of possession I wouldn't be surprised if we pull out the win. If our run D shits the bed I can see us getting blown out.
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It has been said, but I do think it will be our run defense that needs to step up this game. We are different in that we can now run the ball and people need to respect our ability to run. If we can even out the time of possession I wouldn't be surprised if we pull out the win. If our run D shits the bed I can see us getting blown out.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



Gore likes to run right behind Iupati, that's the area where we need to be careful.
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DoddPower
11 years ago

QB Ratings

Outdoor Temp <40 F
Rodgers - 85.2
Kaepernick - 134.6


Windy conditions
Rodgers - 75.0
Kaepernick - 129.1

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



But the Packers are going to have a huge advantage because of the weather! [duh] [sarcasm]
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But the Packers are going to have a huge advantage because of the weather! [duh] [sarcasm]

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



Bizarre weather is also good for the weakest team. So I do think weather is going to help us. It makes everything more random.



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We changed our offense a lot this season to be ready for this time of year. I think we have evened that out. I suppose the biggest difference is that Gore is healthy and Lacy not so much and Kap is a lot more mobile. But to say that 49ers are all power and we are all finesse is simply not true. Not saying that is what you are implying but I think we made great strides this year in taking on a more power identity... at least through our running game.

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules 



Remember back in the Holmgren days when he got the mudders for running backs aka Levens and Bennett and the receivers weren't your speed demons but possession type. Go forward to our current team and we have Lacy and Starks and the same possession type receivers.

Also looking back to 1996 we opened against the 49ers on a muddy field ( had a turf sale after) and then played Carolina then come to this year could history repeat that we play 49ers then Panthers ? Yes I know we would still have to play one more game until the Super Bowl but I found it interesting.
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But the Packers are going to have a huge advantage because of the weather! [duh] [sarcasm]

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



They were discussing this on numbers never lie and they said Rodgers was the best cold weather qb by qbr that has played in atleast 3 games of under 30 degrees.

I don't know where Kevin found his facts.
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The 49ers defense isn't as scary as you may think, here are some stats from their last 2 games


Matt Ryan 37/48 348 yards 2 Tds 2 Ints ( one was the fluke off the recievers hands returned for a TD when Atlanta was going for the win)

Carson Palmer 28/49 407 yards and 2Tds and 1 int


So I feel Rodgers is a better qb then them to so I could see a big day for him, something like 378 4 tds and 1 int


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11 years ago
With the weather to deal with both defenses will have to load up against the run and make the opposing team throw the ball.

I do think, however, Rodgers will be more willing and ready to throw it then Kaepernick. I see him being more confident back there and more effective getting the ball to his receivers.

SF has a good run D in part because the have big and physical DB's but they don't have the guys that can cover as well as Shields, Williams, and Hyde.

My guess is they run the ball better than we do Sunday leaving it in Rodgers hands to have a much better day over Kaepernick.


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They were discussing this on numbers never lie and they said Rodgers was the best cold weather qb by qbr that has played in atleast 3 games of under 30 degrees.

I don't know where Kevin found his facts.

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From deep within his rectum.
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ESPN = my rectum

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But the Packers are going to have a huge advantage because of the weather! [duh] [sarcasm]

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



My first thoughts on this are that under 40 degree's isn't under 10. I would really like to know how many games Kaepernick has actually played vs. Rodgers in these stats as well.

Obviously, it's not as easy to play when it's freezing ass cold and blowing too. So if Kaepernick's "below 40" games are 35 and little wind it really means nothing. I KNOW Rodgers has played in crap like this. How many times in two years has Kaepernick seen it? Once, maybe twice, and I doubt ever this cold.

I also believe playing in Chicago last weekend will help the team this Sunday. It wasn't exactly a picnic out there. Great tune up for Rodgers coming off 7 weeks for sure and not a whole lot different then what's coming up.

Note too that Arod's rating wasn't so great last week either because of the two picks. Aside from that all he did was win the game for us.


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DoddPower
11 years ago

My first thoughts on this are that under 40 degree's isn't under 10. I would really like to know how many games Kaepernick has actually played vs. Rodgers in these stats as well.

Obviously, it's not as easy to play when it's freezing ass cold and blowing too. So if Kaepernick's "below 40" games are 35 and little wind it really means nothing. I KNOW Rodgers has played in crap like this. How many times in two years has Kaepernick seen it? Once, maybe twice, and I doubt ever this cold.

I also believe playing in Chicago last weekend will help the team this Sunday. It wasn't exactly a picnic out there. Great tune up for Rodgers coming off 7 weeks for sure and not a whole lot different then what's coming up.

Note too that Arod's rating wasn't so great last week either because of the two picks. Aside from that all he did was win the game for us.

Originally Posted by: warhawk 



I can understand that point, but Kaepernick doesn't necessarily have to win the game for his team. He just has to play OK, stay within the game plan, scramble a few times when necessary, sustain drives, and complete some passes. As far as I'm concerned, Rodgers has to play a great game to win, in addition of course to the offensive line, WRs, etc. But even if Kaepernick is affected more by the weather, the influence his defense, offensive line, and rushing game will have diminishes those aspects, imo. The 49'er's just have more ways to win the game other than Kaepernick. I'm not so sure I can say that same about the Packers and Aaron Rodgers. It's likely if Rodgers plays average or bad, the Packers don't stand a chance.
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But the Packers are going to have a huge advantage because of the weather! [duh] [sarcasm]

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 


That's a very misleading stat, but not for the reasons you think. Off the top of my head, Kaepernick's played in one cold weather game. That was a 34-degree game in New England last year. It was sloppy conditions, though. Regardless, there is a huge difference between 34 degrees -- which isn't that cold -- and the current forecast  for this Sunday, which calls for single digits or below zero temperature. This could be one of the coldest games in NFL history. Simply put, we don't know how Kaepernick, Rodgers, their receivers, or anyone will act. I suspect this is a slight advantage for the Packers. Is it enough to tip the scale? I don't know about that, but I’m looking forward to finding out.
DoddPower
11 years ago

That's a very misleading stat, but not for the reasons you think. Off the top of my head, Kaepernick's played in one cold weather game. That was a 34-degree game in New England last year. It was sloppy conditions, though. Regardless, there is a huge difference between 34 degrees -- which isn't that cold -- and the current forecast  for this Sunday, which calls for single digits or below zero temperature. This could be one of the coldest games in NFL history. Simply put, we don't know how Kaepernick, Rodgers, their receivers, or anyone will act. I suspect this is a slight advantage for the Packers. Is it enough to tip the scale? I don't know about that, but I’m looking forward to finding out.

Originally Posted by: porky88 



Yeah, I can understand that. It oversimplifies things. But my point remains, in that Kaepernick doesn't have to be great for the 49'er's to win, and Rodgers does. So even if Kaepernick struggles, it's still going to be difficult for the Packers to win. I'm not sure how well the Packers would handle a constant does of Gore and scrambles by Kaepernick, honestly. Add in a few passes to move the chains off play-action, and they are going to be hard to stop if the Packers can't stop their running game. I'm not sure the weather will affect Frank Gore and the 49'er's offensive line. I hope it does, but I'm uncertain.
steveishere
11 years ago

QB Ratings

Outdoor Temp <40 F
Rodgers - 85.2
Kaepernick - 134.6


Windy conditions
Rodgers - 75.0
Kaepernick - 129.1

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



That's the 1 game sample from this year lol. Since 2010 (I didn't feel like looking back any farther) Rodgers has a 24-4 (26-6 counting Bears game)TD/INT ratio in under 40. I don't think Kaepernick has even thrown 50 passes in those circumstances in his career so who knows how he actually is in the cold.
El3ment12
11 years ago
Dodd that's exactly what I was thinking. If we can't stuff that run game early, that play action is just going to DESTROY us. They have far too many weapons.
DoddPower
11 years ago

That's the 1 game sample from this year lol. Since 2010 (I didn't feel like looking back any farther) Rodgers has a 24-4 (26-6 counting Bears game)TD/INT ratio in under 40. I don't think Kaepernick has even thrown 50 passes in those circumstances in his career so who knows how he actually is in the cold.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Yeah, and it's not really a valid comparison anyway. The 49'er's and Packers are obviously vastly different teams and have substantially different circumstances. But regardless, if the game truly comes down to who can pound the rock the best, who has the advantage? The Packers rushing offense vs. the 49'er's rushing defense, of the 49'er's rushing offense vs. the Packers rushing defense? Hopefully Rodgers can still pass the ball well.

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