Wild Card [2013] Green Bay Packers vs San Francisco 49ers· Page 7

steveishere
Veteran Member

11 years ago

Yeah, and it's not really a valid comparison anyway. The 49'er's and Packers are obviously vastly different teams and have substantially different circumstances. But regardless, if the game truly comes down to who can pound the rock the best, who has the advantage? The Packers rushing offense vs. the 49'er's rushing defense, of the 49'er's rushing offense vs. the Packers rushing defense? Hopefully Rodgers can still pass the ball well.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

Thing is unless the wind and snow goes crazy I don't see why we won't be able to pass. Rodgers can throw in the cold and our guys can catch in the cold. Wild card is that we don't really know how the players on the 49ers deal with it because they haven't really been tested by these kind of temps as much. They may not miss a beat but who know, makes it interesting at least.

Yerko
Senior Member

11 years ago

#62

I am most worried about the OLBs outside contain this game and the constant biting on the inside run. Numerous times, the Bears ran a designed run that bounced outside and pretty much every time, the OLB bit and was trapped inside. That worries me with that garbage run option.

Its time for Raji to find his balls and get some push on the defensive line. It would be awesome if the Packers had Johnny Jolly and Matthews for this game. The defense would play out so much better with those two in the line-up. Time for the defense to put up or shut up.

Offensively, I don't think the Packers should have many issues. For the sake of the run game, please stop running that awful pitch/toss play. It is quite possibly the worst run play in that playbook. It didn't work ONE TIME against the Bears worst ranked run defense. DO NOT RUN THE PLAY!

nerdmann
Premier Member

11 years ago

#63

It all hinges on whether or not Dom can put it together for a game. Will we stop the run? They don't even have to be perfect. Just show up enough to get some stops, like they did against the Bears.

If Kaepernick grew up in Milwaukee, he knows how to play in the cold.

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wpr
Preferred Member

11 years ago

#64

That's a very misleading stat, but not for the reasons you think. Off the top of my head, Kaepernick's played in one cold weather game. That was a 34-degree game in New England last year. It was sloppy conditions, though. Regardless, there is a huge difference between 34 degrees -- which isn't that cold -- and the current forecast for this Sunday, which calls for single digits or below zero temperature. This could be one of the coldest games in NFL history. Simply put, we don't know how Kaepernick, Rodgers, their receivers, or anyone will act. I suspect this is a slight advantage for the Packers. Is it enough to tip the scale? I don't know about that, but I’m looking forward to finding out.

Originally Posted by: porky88

You beat me to it. I remember a few years ago Seattle saying that the knew about cold weather because they got snow out there every once in a while. (It didn't matter that it melted off the next day, they were experts.) I think that was the Hasselback: "We'll take the ball, and we're gonna score." game which of course went to OT. they really struggled in the first half. They regrouped at half time and had 3 long drives in the second half. That temp was 20 degrees with a wind chill around 6 and they were miserable the whole game. With the later start time and the falling temps this is going to be a harder game to regroup. Add to that SF is 800 miles further south. That is like going from GB to Batesville, Mississippi.

mi_keys
Senior Member

11 years ago

#65

That's the 1 game sample from this year lol. Since 2010 (I didn't feel like looking back any farther) Rodgers has a 24-4 (26-6 counting Bears game)TD/INT ratio in under 40. I don't think Kaepernick has even thrown 50 passes in those circumstances in his career so who knows how he actually is in the cold.

Originally Posted by: steveishere

Since taking over the starting job, Rodgers has 53 TDs, 16 INTs and a 103.7 QB Rating in 24 starts with the kickoff temp below 40 (from matching pro football reference temperatures to game logs). When the temperature is below freezing, Rodgers has 36 TDs, 11 INTs and a 102.1 QB Rating in 16 career starts.

For reference, his QB rating since 2008 is 105.4.

Rodgers has played in two games in which the starting temperature was single digits or worse: 2008 away to Chicago (6 degrees; 2 TDs, 1 INT, 87.6 QB Rating) and 2008 home against Houston (0 degrees; 2 TDs, 1 INT, 104.2 QB Rating).

I started looking because I pulled some numbers like these a few years ago when people were saying we absolutely had to have a running game because we can't pass in the cold. What I remembered finding was that the numbers were not all that different in cold weather vs. warm weather, especially if you focus on outdoor games where wind can be a factor (in 20 career dome games, Rodgers has a 117.2 QB Rating... probably due to Minnesota being shit).

All that said, wpr, steveishre, and co. are spot on in saying it's not a valid comparison as most of those below 40 or whatever games you want to pull are going to be nothing like the game this weekend. The game this weekend might be a once in a generation game weather wise. It'll be fun to see how that weather affects the two teams.

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DoddPower
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#66

All that said, wpr, steveishre, and co. are spot on in saying it's not a valid comparison as most of those below 40 or whatever games you want to pull are going to be nothing like the game this weekend. The game this weekend might be a once in a generation game weather wise. It'll be fun to see how that weather affects the two teams.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys

Yeah, that is a good point. Most my early sentiments were based off of a very cold name, but I wasn't quite expecting it to be THAT cold. Chances are the weather will substantially affect both teams. I'm just unsure which team it will hurt the most. I certainly think it will hurt the Packers to some extent, but hopefully it hurts the 49'er's in the same way, or more. I still remember how cold and miserable Favre looked in the 2007 NFC Championship game.

CDNRodgersfan
Registered

11 years ago

#67

Looking for a little help. Never watched a game online before but got no tv. Anyone have a link to watch online ?

wpr
Preferred Member

11 years ago

#68

my son doesn't either. He usually heads to a local bar to watch.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

#69

Looking for a little help. Never watched a game online before but got no tv. Anyone have a link to watch online ?

Originally Posted by: CDNRodgersfan

http://packershome.com/Chat.aspx chat page shortly before game time and someone will be able to assist your request.

warhawk
Senior Member

11 years ago

#70

I like the idea of Rodgers to Cobb in this crazy weather. Cobb can take a few short passes and turn them into huge scores. This could offset what SF does in the run game as you can bet they are going to pound Gore all day long.

If somehow the Pack can strike early and get a two score lead it would change everything. Maybe a Hyde Hyde Ho return and Cobb weaving thru for a big score?

Certainly not out of the realm.

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