Wild Card [2013] Green Bay Packers vs San Francisco 49ers· Page 6

warhawk
Senior Member

10 years ago

With the weather to deal with both defenses will have to load up against the run and make the opposing team throw the ball.

I do think, however, Rodgers will be more willing and ready to throw it then Kaepernick. I see him being more confident back there and more effective getting the ball to his receivers.

SF has a good run D in part because the have big and physical DB's but they don't have the guys that can cover as well as Shields, Williams, and Hyde.

My guess is they run the ball better than we do Sunday leaving it in Rodgers hands to have a much better day over Kaepernick.

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DakotaT
Select Member

10 years ago

#52

They were discussing this on numbers never lie and they said Rodgers was the best cold weather qb by qbr that has played in atleast 3 games of under 30 degrees.

I don't know where Kevin found his facts.

Originally Posted by: dhazer

From deep within his rectum.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#53

ESPN = my rectum

apparently

warhawk
Senior Member

10 years ago

#54

But the Packers are going to have a huge advantage because of the weather! [duh] [sarcasm]

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

My first thoughts on this are that under 40 degree's isn't under 10. I would really like to know how many games Kaepernick has actually played vs. Rodgers in these stats as well.

Obviously, it's not as easy to play when it's freezing ass cold and blowing too. So if Kaepernick's "below 40" games are 35 and little wind it really means nothing. I KNOW Rodgers has played in crap like this. How many times in two years has Kaepernick seen it? Once, maybe twice, and I doubt ever this cold.

I also believe playing in Chicago last weekend will help the team this Sunday. It wasn't exactly a picnic out there. Great tune up for Rodgers coming off 7 weeks for sure and not a whole lot different then what's coming up.

Note too that Arod's rating wasn't so great last week either because of the two picks. Aside from that all he did was win the game for us.

"The train is leaving the station."

DoddPower
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#55

Originally Posted by: warhawk

I can understand that point, but Kaepernick doesn't necessarily have to win the game for his team. He just has to play OK, stay within the game plan, scramble a few times when necessary, sustain drives, and complete some passes. As far as I'm concerned, Rodgers has to play a great game to win, in addition of course to the offensive line, WRs, etc. But even if Kaepernick is affected more by the weather, the influence his defense, offensive line, and rushing game will have diminishes those aspects, imo. The 49'er's just have more ways to win the game other than Kaepernick. I'm not so sure I can say that same about the Packers and Aaron Rodgers. It's likely if Rodgers plays average or bad, the Packers don't stand a chance.

porky88
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#56

But the Packers are going to have a huge advantage because of the weather! [duh] [sarcasm]

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

That's a very misleading stat, but not for the reasons you think. Off the top of my head, Kaepernick's played in one cold weather game. That was a 34-degree game in New England last year. It was sloppy conditions, though. Regardless, there is a huge difference between 34 degrees -- which isn't that cold -- and the current forecast for this Sunday, which calls for single digits or below zero temperature. This could be one of the coldest games in NFL history. Simply put, we don't know how Kaepernick, Rodgers, their receivers, or anyone will act. I suspect this is a slight advantage for the Packers. Is it enough to tip the scale? I don't know about that, but I’m looking forward to finding out.

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DoddPower
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#57

Originally Posted by: porky88

Yeah, I can understand that. It oversimplifies things. But my point remains, in that Kaepernick doesn't have to be great for the 49'er's to win, and Rodgers does. So even if Kaepernick struggles, it's still going to be difficult for the Packers to win. I'm not sure how well the Packers would handle a constant does of Gore and scrambles by Kaepernick, honestly. Add in a few passes to move the chains off play-action, and they are going to be hard to stop if the Packers can't stop their running game. I'm not sure the weather will affect Frank Gore and the 49'er's offensive line. I hope it does, but I'm uncertain.

steveishere
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#58

QB Ratings

Outdoor Temp <40 F
Rodgers - 85.2
Kaepernick - 134.6

Windy conditions
Rodgers - 75.0
Kaepernick - 129.1

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

That's the 1 game sample from this year lol. Since 2010 (I didn't feel like looking back any farther) Rodgers has a 24-4 (26-6 counting Bears game)TD/INT ratio in under 40. I don't think Kaepernick has even thrown 50 passes in those circumstances in his career so who knows how he actually is in the cold.

El3ment12
Registered

10 years ago

#59

Dodd that's exactly what I was thinking. If we can't stuff that run game early, that play action is just going to DESTROY us. They have far too many weapons.

DoddPower
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#60

Originally Posted by: steveishere

Yeah, and it's not really a valid comparison anyway. The 49'er's and Packers are obviously vastly different teams and have substantially different circumstances. But regardless, if the game truly comes down to who can pound the rock the best, who has the advantage? The Packers rushing offense vs. the 49'er's rushing defense, of the 49'er's rushing offense vs. the Packers rushing defense? Hopefully Rodgers can still pass the ball well.

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