Pack93z
12 years ago

I don't think it's as bad as you think. I seriously think if we fix the pass rush, everything else will fall into place. The secondary will start tackling better and our morale/swagger will be improved many times over.

But I STRONGLY agree with you that the #2 QB is the least of our concerns right now. It's so low of a concern that it's even less than fixing the running game.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



I would agree.. that it isn't as bad as it was last season.. IMO.

First... we have a solid starting group on the offensive line.. last season we still had questions on the left side.

On the defensive line I see a much better rotation... which will in turn take more heat off the edges consistently.

On the edges.. we now have two blue chip type talents.. in Perry and Matthews.. and I think at least a bit more depth overall.

While the secondary IMO regressed from TC 2011... here we have way more questions with the loss of Collins and Shields and Williams coming off regressed years. Williams shoulder bothers me.. I think Woodson will be Woodson.. but CB play is a concern.

I think by the second half of the season.. Hayward and House, if healthy, may shore that up... but will we have lost our confidence in the unit by then.. or I should correctly state will Capers have lost the confidence in the group and shell up some.

Still doesn't change the fact that this team isn't as stout as some make it out to be.. we have alot of growth and work to do.

We have a offense that is talented enough to win it all.. but that is far from a #1 seeded team.
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dhpackr
12 years ago


First... we have a solid starting group on the offensive line.. last season we still had questions on the left side.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 


IMO LT is still a weakness which is why we may indeed need a decent backup qb if rodgers were to get injured. there is no way harrell is ready to start a NFL game. i can not agree with another posters assesment that the #2 qb position is the LEAST of the packers worries. I think it is a area that needs to be addressed after this third game. If jackson from Seattle, mccoy are released, IMO Ted Thompson should make a move to sign one of these guys and cut harrell

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12 years ago
Suppose Graham does become a quality QB in a year or two or three. It doesn't matter this year. The real question is Ted comfortable with Harrell as his QB should something happen to AR. If not he has two choices. Wait until when even in season and try and replace him or let Harrell run the team.
I think he is looking already and if the opportunity arises and is not too costly he will pull the trigger.
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Packfan87
12 years ago
Well that title was misleading...=d>

I'd be surprised if they cut Harrell. Not because he's done great but he knows the system and 🇹🇹 is stingy with his draft picks.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago
I'm not the only one who feels Graham Harrell could be cut - link . Another - link .
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PackerTraxx
12 years ago
Didn't Ted Thompson go with Flynn as 2nd string when he was a rookie? Or am I forgetting someone? If he likes Coleman...could be.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

Didn't Ted Thompson go with Flynn as 2nd string when he was a rookie? Or am I forgetting someone? If he likes Coleman...could be.

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx 



Mike McCarthy went with Matt Flynn as a rookie as his 2nd string quarterback.
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yooperfan
12 years ago
I'm guessing they keep Harrell due to his familiarity with the system, and he would probably be adequate if he was playing with the onesies.
dhpackr
12 years ago

I'm not the only one who feels Graham Harrell could be cut - link . Another - link .

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I'm glad the article mentioned Mccoy and Jackson. IMO, Like I posted b/f, Harrell will be cut and Tavarious Jackson will be A-Rods backup. Russel Wilson is going to be a starting NFL qb,he may even beet out Matt Flynn this season. Jackson has a huge salary, he is going to be cut by the Seahawks.


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nerdmann
12 years ago
Yeah, it's far more likely that Ted has a list of QBs that are likely to be cut, than it is that he will make a trade.
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