Porforis
13 years ago

Porforis - my lifetime charity will be childrens cancer from here on out. But how does that relieve me of my tax burden?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



It doesn't, I'm confused how when we take this statement:

Well I'm ready for an alternative, but until some smart guy finds a way to take care of all the needy, I guess I'll just have to keep writing a big check to the IRS every year.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Which was a reply to this comment:

Yes, a true Christian should be willing to help out the unlucky. But it also shouldn't be mandated. Kinda the whole 'keep your laws off my body' thing.

The only thing the Government is good at is breaking your leg, handing you a crutch and then saying, "See? Without the Government to help, you'd wouldn't be able to walk!"

Originally Posted by: Formo 



Which was a reply to this comment:

But does everybody have the same abilities as you? That's what is wrong with your line of thinking - you believe everyone is created equally and we are not. There are a lot of people not capable of your life. They need your help and if you are a true Christian - you should be more than willing to pay your taxes to help these people.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



That we can't walk away from it assuming that your intention was primarily to draw a connection between paying taxes and helping the needy as a part of an argument that the government helps people in part through taxation. Now your point doesn't have anything to do with helping the needy and is just a statement that you need to pay your taxes? Yes, yes you do, thank you for clarifying.

The point is that paying a nonprofit charity that uses maybe 10 - 15% of it's donations to pay for administrative costs for the sake of helping those less fortunate is much more efficient than paying the IRS. The IRS divvies your money up amongst both charitable and not charitable causes across dozens if not hundreds of different government and psuedo-government entities.
Zero2Cool
13 years ago
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Porforis
13 years ago
Is this satire? If 48,000 Americans have been murdered by illegal aliens, the most surefire way to reduce that number is to reduce the number of illegal aliens, which he is doing.
porky88
13 years ago
P.J. O'Rourke is satire. And he's damn good if I may add.

That's not satire. I can't recall anyone referencing the President's full name in an attempt at humor. That's a big old attempt to scare as many people as possible. Stuff like that is fear mongering.
Porforis
13 years ago
And I wasn't being serious.
Wade
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13 years ago

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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



The least they could do is spell his name correctly.

Even a pinhead deserves that courtesy.


As for the "48,000" claim...give me an effing break.




And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
Zero2Cool
13 years ago

The least they could do is spell his name correctly.

Even a pinhead deserves that courtesy.


As for the "48,000" claim...give me an effing break.

Originally Posted by: Wade 



How would they even track that anyhow? It seems guessed to me.
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DakotaT
13 years ago



That we can't walk away from it assuming that your intention was primarily to draw a connection between paying taxes and helping the needy as a part of an argument that the government helps people in part through taxation. Now your point doesn't have anything to do with helping the needy and is just a statement that you need to pay your taxes? Yes, yes you do, thank you for clarifying.

The point is that paying a nonprofit charity that uses maybe 10 - 15% of it's donations to pay for administrative costs for the sake of helping those less fortunate is much more efficient than paying the IRS. The IRS divvies your money up amongst both charitable and not charitable causes across dozens if not hundreds of different government and psuedo-government entities.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



My point is that we have to have a hybrid because there's surely not enough "real Christian" people to take care of all the needy. Efficient or not, our government serves a major function in providing care for needy people.

I had a Tea Party guy tell me once that charitable organizations and churches should be put in charge of taking care of the needy and we could cut our tax bill in half. I asked how he new if the people running the charitable orgs and churches were honest. That conversation ended at that point.

The problem with our government is that they spend too much money on the military and Farm bill and not enough domestically and on infrastructure.
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Porforis
13 years ago

My point is that we have to have a hybrid because there's surely not enough "real Christian" people to take care of all the needy. Efficient or not, our government serves a major function in providing care for needy people.

I had a Tea Party guy tell me once that charitable organizations and churches should be put in charge of taking care of the needy and we could cut our tax bill in half. I asked how he new if the people running the charitable orgs and churches were honest. That conversation ended at that point.

The problem with our government is that they spend too much money on the military and Farm bill and not enough domestically and on infrastructure.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Nobody here is advocating that the government not be involved with any sort of charitable works, just because a far-right kook from elsewhere tells you his opinion doesn't mean that said opinion is anywhere close to mainstream.
DakotaT
13 years ago

Nobody here is advocating that the government not be involved with any sort of charitable works, just because a far-right kook from elsewhere tells you his opinion doesn't mean that said opinion is anywhere close to mainstream.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



Seems like there are more and more right wing kooks all the time.


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