Porforis
13 years ago

LOL. You mean you believe the teachers union has the right to take food off your table so they can retire with full pay and benefits at age 55?

I don't see any teachers and public employees throwing money at me so I can have a free ride.

Originally Posted by: vegOmatic 



That's because you aren't a member of the union and vote straight ticket Democrat, silly. You're with us or you're in the way.
DakotaT
13 years ago

LOL. You mean you believe the teachers union has the right to take food off your table so they can retire with full pay and benefits at age 55?

I don't see any teachers and public employees throwing money at me so I can have a free ride.

Originally Posted by: vegOmatic 



Those teachers and public employees signed a legal contract for their services which included a pension; and now Walker thinks he has the right to just take that away from them?

Just because I don't want to pay 60% markup to a thief selling retail (you call them businessmen) do I get to just pay him what I think is fair, or do I have to pay his price?
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Porforis
13 years ago

Those teachers and public employees signed a legal contract for their services which included a pension; and now Walker thinks he has the right to just take that away from them?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Then why hasn't anybody sued Walker for violating their legal contract? Or are we being overly simplistic?
DakotaT
13 years ago

Then why hasn't anybody sued Walker for violating their legal contract? Or are we being overly simplistic?

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



I don't know what you Sconi's do. Here in North Dakota there was a push by the Teapublican Legislators to change the State Employee pension from a defined benefit to a 401K retirement for new employees only; but it was shot down because our coffers are full and the Legislators look like a bunch of miser ass clowns overstepping their power.

But if corporations can just shitcan people in the eleventh hour of their careers and bypass paying people's pensions, then I guess it would technically be a legal thing to do. But is it right?

Is it that important for the top 10% to keep lining their pockets off the misery of the masses?


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dyeah_gb
13 years ago

I don't know what you Sconi's do. ..

Is it that important for the top 10% to keep lining their pockets off the misery of the masses?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Got to love the concept that the rich wanting to get richer is an evil premise. If libs would devote all the energy and creativity that they spend worrying about how much the rich make on doing something productive, maybe the US GDP wouldn't be in the crapper.

Another note: Unions bribe , I mean "contribute," money and votes exclusively to democrat politicians. Democrats, in turn, agree to take lots of tax money to give union workers great benefits and other entitlements. If I was not in one of these unions, I would be pretty pissed that my tax money was being used in this borderline bribe/redistribution setup. I would probably say that it is great to tear up such an unfair contract.
The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool - R. Feynman
DakotaT
13 years ago

Got to love the concept that the rich wanting to get richer is an evil premise. If libs would devote all the energy and creativity that they spend worrying about how much the rich make on doing something productive, maybe the US GDP wouldn't be in the crapper.

Another note: Unions bribe , I mean "contribute," money and votes exclusively to democrat politicians. Democrats, in turn, agree to take lots of tax money to give union workers great benefits and other entitlements. If I was not in one of these unions, I would be pretty pissed that my tax money was being used in this borderline bribe/redistribution setup. I would probably say that it is great to tear up such an unfair contract.

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb 



All I want is for the rich to pay taxes on all their income and not get to shelter it anymore. It's time to start putting some of these fucks in the cages with Bubba and Tyrone. You can not deny that the tax code is set up to benefit the wealthy, and they do everything in their power to avoid their taxes. So when people whine about redistribution of wealth, I both want to laugh and smack a capitalist.


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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

All I want is for the rich to pay taxes on all their income and not get to shelter it anymore. It's time to start putting some of these fucks in the cages with Bubba and Tyrone. You can not deny that the tax code is set up to benefit the wealthy, and they do everything in their power to avoid their taxes. So when people whine about redistribution of wealth, I both want to laugh and smack a capitalist.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I'm asking this because I don't really know. It seems to me that the rich people manipulated those in office to gain tax breaks here and there, or maybe rich people told such an such candidate if you pass this tax break for the rich, I'll finance this portion of your campaign plus your family has free use of my limo ... something like that ... any of that true or am I way off?
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DakotaT
13 years ago

I'm asking this because I don't really know. It seems to me that the rich people manipulated those in office to gain tax breaks here and there, or maybe rich people told such an such candidate if you pass this tax break for the rich, I'll finance this portion of your campaign plus your family has free use of my limo ... something like that ... any of that true or am I way off?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



The wealthy deal from a stacked deck, they always have and always will. That is why I make way off the wall comments like "let's get out the guillotine". Does it piss you off that you don't get to shelter income and be a hog at the trough when they do it and legally because they own the politicians?

This shit has been going on since the beginning of time. There are people who live by their conscience and live the right way. And then there are those who cheat, lie, and steal their way through life.

For every person that earned all of their wealth there are 10 that gained their wealth by either inheritence or by doing shady crap. Thankfully, Wade assures me there is a God and will be a judgement day to make everthing right.
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Porforis
13 years ago
And yet we keep on voting for candidates that want to "fix" the tax code by adding new taxes for the wealthy or tax breaks for other people. Tell me, if the system is rotten and ridiculously complex, why don't we hear anybody - Democrat or Republican seriously pressing for simplification of the tax code? Besides the fact that they'll piss off a bunch of people because thousands of accountants and tax professionals will lose their jobs. Another example of how politics gets in the way of solutions. It's not a perfect solution but it sure beats more of the same old and piling more code on top of the existing beast.
DakotaT
13 years ago

And yet we keep on voting for candidates that want to "fix" the tax code by adding new taxes for the wealthy or tax breaks for other people. Tell me, if the system is rotten and ridiculously complex, why don't we hear anybody - Democrat or Republican seriously pressing for simplification of the tax code? Besides the fact that they'll piss off a bunch of people because thousands of accountants and tax professionals will lose their jobs. Another example of how politics gets in the way of solutions. It's not a perfect solution but it sure beats more of the same old and piling more code on top of the existing beast.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



We don't need any new tax code, we just need to close all the loopholes, and that means me too. I get $1,200 in extra credits because of W - and we still don't know if those are sunsetting or not. And then when the budget balances out, we can think about real tax reform across all income levels.


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