nerdmann
12 years ago

Tagging Flynn= 14.5 million
Aaron Rodgers salary 2012= 8 million

The only way in hell they tag Flynn for a tag & trade is if Ted, Flynn, Aaron are physically sitting at a table at 1265 and make the guy running the team that's buying show up with cash cash and draft pick(s) in a suitcase prior to submitting it to the league. The compensatory pick is fine, and we burn no bridges by letting him walk as a grateful beneficiary of a class organization. Too many (bad) potential ramifications in trying to get cute with a tag & trade scenario. I keep trying to remind everyone, we are a simple folk come Wisconsin way, and this NY-style fancy-schmantzy-machination shit is for them, not us sodbustin' cow-farmer-types. ๐Ÿ˜ณ ๐Ÿ˜„

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 


If we don't tag and trade him, he could end up in the division.
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dhpackr
12 years ago
I had a hard time digesting the tag and trade theory as well. It seems many think it is the best way to handle the situation and improve the team. I know if i see Flynn being franchised, he is being traded and someone really wanted him.

Flynn has been impressive, but impressive enough to command a first round draft choice?

I would not franchise Matt Flynn, because I don't think teams are willing to give up a ton to get him.

I would let Flynn move on, and concentrate on getting Finley signed.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

Tagging Flynn= 14.5 million
Aaron Rodgers salary 2012= 8 million

The only way in hell they tag Flynn for a tag & trade is if Ted, Flynn, Aaron are physically sitting at a table at 1265 and make the guy running the team that's buying show up with cash cash and draft pick(s) in a suitcase prior to submitting it to the league. The compensatory pick is fine, and we burn no bridges by letting him walk as a grateful beneficiary of a class organization. Too many (bad) potential ramifications in trying to get cute with a tag & trade scenario. I keep trying to remind everyone, we are a simple folk come Wisconsin way, and this NY-style fancy-schmantzy-machination shit is for them, not us sodbustin' cow-farmer-types. ๐Ÿ˜ณ ๐Ÿ˜„

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 


This goes along with what I said from the start. Packers won't tag unless a trade is agreed upon, although there is absolutely no reason for Aaron Rodgers to be involved, lol. He has a contract and a job, it's quarterbacking the Packers, not assist in personnel moves. Remember, Packers had a guy that used to try to do that. ๐Ÿ™‚
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DoddPower
12 years ago

This goes along with what I said from the start. Packers won't tag unless a trade is agreed upon, although there is absolutely no reason for Aaron Rodgers to be involved, lol. He has a contract and a job, it's quarterbacking the Packers, not assist in personnel moves. Remember, Packers had a guy that used to try to do that. :)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yeah, that's what some here are missing in the tag-and-trade-Flynn scenario. If he was tagged, it would mean a trade has already been worked out. The Packers would not pay him the money. It would be the team he is traded to, who will then likely work out a long term contract. I understand it's unlikely Flynn will be tagged and traded by the Packers, but regardless, the Packers won't be paying him $14 million.
Yerko
12 years ago
The Cleveland Browns are surely a top runner for Matt Flynn. Holmgren *supposedly* inquired about Flynn before this season. Maybe, just maybe Holmgren sees so much in Flynn that he jumps to a quick offer so he doesn't hit the FA market?

Could this be a possibility?
UserPostedImage
12 years ago

I had a hard time digesting the tag and trade theory as well. It seems many think it is the best way to handle the situation and improve the team. I know if i see Flynn being franchised, he is being traded and someone really wanted him.

Flynn has been impressive, but impressive enough to command a first round draft choice?

I would not franchise Matt Flynn, because I don't think teams are willing to give up a ton to get him.

I would let Flynn move on, and concentrate on getting Finley signed.

Originally Posted by: dhpackr 



So, if they can't get a first round pick, they're better off getting nothing but a compensatory pick? That seems to be a big flaw in your logic.

Getting a 2nd or even a 3rd would be better than getting a compensatory pick, and we would be able to make sure that Flynn doesn't end up where we don't want him. That's clearly better than getting a compensatory pick.

The only real downside to franchising Flynn is that it reduces the team's leverage in negotiating with Finley.
zombieslayer
12 years ago
I don't think Finley has as much leverage as he thinks he has. All we have to do is play a highlights reel of his drops. As silly as it sounds, there's truth to that.

Finley - I want....

Ted - You're not a top 5 TE. (whips out the stat sheet)

Finley - D'oh!
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Yerko
12 years ago
There have been some good posts in here and I think this article by Brian Carriveau  sums it up pretty well (and falls much along the lines of what you all have been talking about.

What I really like about the article is he points out that it isn't necessarily a tag and trade, but more like a trade and tag. A team would agree to terms with the Packers first and THEN the tag would be placed. With that said, if a tag is placed on Flynn and not Finley, then maybe a deal has been worked out with Finley and a team (I am going with Washington or Cleveland) has offered something for Flynn.

Then we could all be happy and our greed will be met.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

I don't think Finley has as much leverage as he thinks he has. All we have to do is play a highlights reel of his drops. As silly as it sounds, there's truth to that.

Finley - I want....

Ted - You're not a top 5 TE. (whips out the stat sheet)

Finley - D'oh!

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 


I'm asking because I don't know ... where does Jermichael Finley rate with other TE's for receptions, yards and TD's? I'm guessing between 10-15ish?
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earthquake
12 years ago

I'm asking because I don't know ... where does Jermichael Finley rate with other TE's for receptions, yards and TD's? I'm guessing between 10-15ish?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



14th in yards and receptions, but 3rd in TDs. To be top 5 five in yards he would have had to catch 8 more balls at his 13.9 average. His 13.9 average is #5 amount TEs who caught at least 30 balls. Honestly he's X(however many he had) number of drops from being elite.
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