Goodbye, Matt Flynn!· Page 7

nerdmann
Premier Member

13 years ago

Tagging Flynn= 14.5 million
Aaron Rodgers salary 2012= 8 million

The only way in hell they tag Flynn for a tag & trade is if Ted, Flynn, Aaron are physically sitting at a table at 1265 and make the guy running the team that's buying show up with cash cash and draft pick(s) in a suitcase prior to submitting it to the league. The compensatory pick is fine, and we burn no bridges by letting him walk as a grateful beneficiary of a class organization. Too many (bad) potential ramifications in trying to get cute with a tag & trade scenario. I keep trying to remind everyone, we are a simple folk come Wisconsin way, and this NY-style fancy-schmantzy-machination shit is for them, not us sodbustin' cow-farmer-types. 😳 😄

Originally Posted by: dfosterf

If we don't tag and trade him, he could end up in the division.

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dhpackr
Registered

13 years ago

#62

I had a hard time digesting the tag and trade theory as well. It seems many think it is the best way to handle the situation and improve the team. I know if i see Flynn being franchised, he is being traded and someone really wanted him.

Flynn has been impressive, but impressive enough to command a first round draft choice?

I would not franchise Matt Flynn, because I don't think teams are willing to give up a ton to get him.

I would let Flynn move on, and concentrate on getting Finley signed.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

#63

Originally Posted by: dfosterf

This goes along with what I said from the start. Packers won't tag unless a trade is agreed upon, although there is absolutely no reason for Aaron Rodgers to be involved, lol. He has a contract and a job, it's quarterbacking the Packers, not assist in personnel moves. Remember, Packers had a guy that used to try to do that. 🙂

DoddPower
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#64

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Yeah, that's what some here are missing in the tag-and-trade-Flynn scenario. If he was tagged, it would mean a trade has already been worked out. The Packers would not pay him the money. It would be the team he is traded to, who will then likely work out a long term contract. I understand it's unlikely Flynn will be tagged and traded by the Packers, but regardless, the Packers won't be paying him $14 million.

Yerko
Senior Member

13 years ago

#65

The Cleveland Browns are surely a top runner for Matt Flynn. Holmgren *supposedly* inquired about Flynn before this season. Maybe, just maybe Holmgren sees so much in Flynn that he jumps to a quick offer so he doesn't hit the FA market?

Could this be a possibility?

get_louder_at_lambeau
Registered

13 years ago

#66

Originally Posted by: dhpackr

So, if they can't get a first round pick, they're better off getting nothing but a compensatory pick? That seems to be a big flaw in your logic.

Getting a 2nd or even a 3rd would be better than getting a compensatory pick, and we would be able to make sure that Flynn doesn't end up where we don't want him. That's clearly better than getting a compensatory pick.

The only real downside to franchising Flynn is that it reduces the team's leverage in negotiating with Finley.

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zombieslayer
Registered

13 years ago

#67

I don't think Finley has as much leverage as he thinks he has. All we have to do is play a highlights reel of his drops. As silly as it sounds, there's truth to that.

Finley - I want....

Ted - You're not a top 5 TE. (whips out the stat sheet)

Finley - D'oh!

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Yerko
Senior Member

13 years ago

#68

There have been some good posts in here and I think this article by Brian Carriveau sums it up pretty well (and falls much along the lines of what you all have been talking about.

What I really like about the article is he points out that it isn't necessarily a tag and trade, but more like a trade and tag. A team would agree to terms with the Packers first and THEN the tag would be placed. With that said, if a tag is placed on Flynn and not Finley, then maybe a deal has been worked out with Finley and a team (I am going with Washington or Cleveland) has offered something for Flynn.

Then we could all be happy and our greed will be met.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

#69

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer

I'm asking because I don't know ... where does Jermichael Finley rate with other TE's for receptions, yards and TD's? I'm guessing between 10-15ish?

earthquake
Member

13 years ago

#70

I'm asking because I don't know ... where does Jermichael Finley rate with other TE's for receptions, yards and TD's? I'm guessing between 10-15ish?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

14th in yards and receptions, but 3rd in TDs. To be top 5 five in yards he would have had to catch 8 more balls at his 13.9 average. His 13.9 average is #5 amount TEs who caught at least 30 balls. Honestly he's X(however many he had) number of drops from being elite.

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