nerdmann
13 years ago

There have been some good posts in here and I think this article by Brian Carriveau  sums it up pretty well (and falls much along the lines of what you all have been talking about.

What I really like about the article is he points out that it isn't necessarily a tag and trade, but more like a trade and tag. A team would agree to terms with the Packers first and THEN the tag would be placed. With that said, if a tag is placed on Flynn and not Finley, then maybe a deal has been worked out with Finley and a team (I am going with Washington or Cleveland) has offered something for Flynn.

Then we could all be happy and our greed will be met.

Originally Posted by: G-Force 


Not sure why we even have to tag him. Just make him an offer and tell him to pick a team. Give him a little extra for allowing us to get a little extra for him, but not so much that another team won't want him.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Yerko
13 years ago

Not sure why we even have to tag him. Just make him an offer and tell him to pick a team. Give him a little extra for allowing us to get a little extra for him, but not so much that another team won't want him.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



That would be great if that were something Matt Flynn agreed to. You take the chances of losing him to free agency (the other team) and getting a comp pick, which I think the majority doesn't want to settle on. Flynn was a hot topic before the season and I think this extra season he had with Green Bay to go through McCarthy's QB school and sit behind Rodgers has sculpted him into an even better option for teams.

High percentage chance if a tag is placed on Flynn, then a team didn't want to wait and risk losing him in free agency. <--best case scenario and a very desperate team). Its all a "what if" game, but fun to play. I really think Ted Thompson will just let Flynn test the market and stick with the compensatory pick.

unfortunately, the talks of Finley and his contract put a nice damper on the fun...or does it just add to it?
UserPostedImage
dfosterf
13 years ago

I don't think Finley has as much leverage as he thinks he has. All we have to do is play a highlights reel of his drops. As silly as it sounds, there's truth to that.

Finley - I want....

Ted - You're not a top 5 TE. (whips out the stat sheet)

Finley - D'oh!

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 




That's what it should be, but that isn't what it is. The SOB has marketable skills. PERSONALLY, I don't give a shit if he stays or goes.

I would prefer to fix other shit that actually matters for us. We need a pass rush, for example. Just me, I reckon.

13 years ago
The rules have changed slightoy from when the Packers tagged and traded Corey Williams. That though is the precedent that should be considered as well as the Casell trade to the Chiefs.

They can tag, then sign,

They can tag and trade(up to trade deadline) with cap hit or

They can release and get a third round pick in 2013.

How Ted navigates this legally under the new CBA will be an interesting challenge.

Big picture to remember is that the Packers had a 7th round pick they developed into a good back up QB and they will be getting a a more valuable draft pick in "profit".

Flynn's agent will be a big help. Look for crazy rumors to come out around the time of the combine.
blank
Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
Here is what the guys over at ProFootballFocus  had to say about this:

Cashing In

Well if Kevin Kolb can attract the type of offers he did with a far less intriguing CV than Matt Flynn (+5.5), I dread to think of the type of money the prospective free agent could draw. However, it’s important to note, that Kolb played exactly the same number of excellent games that Flynn did prior to his lucrative trade … one. Just as the ex-Eagle had his outstanding Week 6 outing against the Falcons on his resume, so now does Flynn have this game to point to. The difference was Kolb had an awful lot of dross to view as well whereas the Packers’ back-up has seen far less playing time. So without much else to go on was this performance as good as it looked on paper?

The answer is almost but not quite; 226 of his 480 yards came after the catch and, as usual, many will forget the awful decision he made with 1:56 left in the final quarter because Brandon McDonald failed to make what should have been a game winning interception.

That aside though, he made very few mistakes and threw some very accurate deep balls not least of which was the perfectly judged 40-yarder to James Jones (also on the final drive) down the right side line. He looked in command, unflustered when pressured and did little wrong. Would I give him $63 Million, or over, for five years on the basis of this? Probably not but if I had to give it to someone and the choice was only him or Kolb I’d be a lot more inclined.


UserPostedImage
zombieslayer
13 years ago

That's what it should be, but that isn't what it is. The SOB has marketable skills. PERSONALLY, I don't give a shit if he stays or goes.

I would prefer to fix other shit that actually matters for us. We need a pass rush, for example. Just me, I reckon.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



I'm indifferent as well.

Pass rush & OL. Those matter WAY more than whether Finley stays or goes.
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage
(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷
Zero2Cool
13 years ago
According to Jason Wilde, and his reading of the CBA, you can use only one tag, either Franchise or Transition tag per year.
UserPostedImage
porky88
13 years ago
Would you rather get 14 million to sit on the bench or 7-9 million to start? I think the latter, so I'm guessing Flynn doesn't sign the contract anyways. Remember, New England franchised Matt Cassel and got a second-round pick for him. The Packers would be wise to consider this option, assuming they don't need the tag for somebody else.
RaiderPride
13 years ago

Would you rather get 14 million to sit on the bench or 7-9 million to start? I think the latter, so I'm guessing Flynn doesn't sign the contract anyways. Remember, New England franchised Matt Cassel and got a second-round pick for him. The Packers would be wise to consider this option, assuming they don't need the tag for somebody else.

Originally Posted by: porky88 



I would love to see him in Silver and Black version of The Green Bay Packers.
""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."
rabidgopher04
13 years ago

Would you rather get 14 million to sit on the bench or 7-9 million to start? I think the latter, so I'm guessing Flynn doesn't sign the contract anyways. Remember, New England franchised Matt Cassel and got a second-round pick for him. The Packers would be wise to consider this option, assuming they don't need the tag for somebody else.

Originally Posted by: porky88 



To be honest with you I would give serious consideration to getting paid $14 million to be a benchwarmer. If I only had to play one game a year and put up gaudy numbers while doing it, in addition to getting paid a massive sum of money, I would be fine with being the most legendary #2 quarterback of all time.
Amazing Bacon Delivery  Service! Never be without good bacon again.
Fan Shout
dfosterf (3h) : Hasn"t Bosa missed more games than he has played in the last 3 years?
Mucky Tundra (8h) : He hasn't been too bad when healthy but I don't feel like I ever heard much about when he is
Zero2Cool (9h) : Felt like he was more interested in his body, than football. He flashed more than I expected
Zero2Cool (9h) : When he was coming out, I thought he'd be flash in pan.
Mucky Tundra (10h) : Joey seems so forgettable compared to his brother for some reason
Zero2Cool (11h) : NFL informed teams today that the 2025 salary cap will be roughly $277.5M-$281.5M
Zero2Cool (15h) : Los Angeles Chargers are likely to release DE Joey Bosa this off-season as a cap casualty, per league source.
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : If the exploit is not fixed, we'll see tons of "50 top free agents, 50 perfect NFL team fits: We picked where each should sign in March" lo
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Issue should be solved, database cleaned and held strong working / meeting. Boom!
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : It should be halted now.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : usually spambots are trying to get traffic to shady websites filled with spyware; the two links being spammed were to the Packers website
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : you know when you put it that way combined with the links it was spamming (to the official Packers website)
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Yep. You can do that with holding down ENTER on a command in Console of browser
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : even with the rapid fire posts?
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : I'm not certain it's a bot.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : I've got to go to work soon which is a pity because I'm enthralled by this battle between the bot and Zero
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Yeah, I see what that did. Kind of funny.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : now it's a link to Wes Hodkiezwicz mailbag
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : Now they're back with another topic
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : oh lol
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : I have a script that purges them now.
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : 118 Topics with Message.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : what's 118 (besides a number)?
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : They got 118 slapped in there.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : that's why it confused the hell out of me
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Yeah, but this is taking a headline and slapping it into the Packers Talk
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : Wasnt there a time guests could post in the help forum?
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : lol good question, kind of impressed!
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : So how is a guest posting?
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : Tell them its an emergency
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Working. Meetings.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : Lots of fun; the spam goes back 4 or 5 pages by this point
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : I thought you'd look for yourself and put 2 and 2 together lol. I overestimated ya ;)
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : I thought Guests couldnt post?
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : And gosh that's gonna be fun to clean up! hahaa
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Oh. Why not just say that then? Geez.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : check the main forum, seems a spam bot is running amok
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : What?
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : Is the Packers online game "Packers Predict" now available for 2024? I can't tell
Zero2Cool (17-Feb) : Bengals planning to Franchise Tag Tamaurice Higgins
Zero2Cool (14-Feb) : Packers are hiring Luke Getsy as senior offensive assistant.
Martha Careful (12-Feb) : I would love to have them both, esp. Crosby, but either might be too expensive.
Zero2Cool (12-Feb) : Keisean Nixon is trying to get Maxx Crosby and Davante Adams lol
Mucky Tundra (11-Feb) : Yeah where did it go?
packerfanoutwest (11-Feb) : or did you resctrict access to that topic?
packerfanoutwest (11-Feb) : why did you remove the Playoff topic?
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Tua’s old DC won a Super Bowl Year 1 with Tua’s former backup
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : *winning MVP
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Funny observation I've heard: Carson Wentz was on the sideline for both Eagles Super Bowl wins w/guys supposed to be his back up winning
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : NFL thought it would get more attention week preceding Super Bowl.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

15h / Green Bay Packers Talk / MintBaconDrivel

18-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

18-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

18-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

18-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

16-Feb / Around The NFL / beast

16-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

16-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

15-Feb / Around The NFL / beast

15-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

14-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / TheKanataThrilla

14-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

13-Feb / Random Babble / Mucky Tundra

10-Feb / Featured Content / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.