Yeah but those hard facts by them selves don't mean one is better in a real team game like football is.

Because you also have to factor in Steven Jackson was the Rams offense for a while. Other teams game plans where don't let this guy kill us, make the rest of the team beat us.

Grant on the other hand (at least while with the Packers) has always had a pretty good passing attack around him which other team defenses focused on, which took pressure off of him.

Originally Posted by: beast 

Yeah but those hard facts by them selves don't mean one is better in a real team game like football is.

Because you also have to factor in Steven Jackson was the Rams offense for a while. Other teams game plans where don't let this guy kill us, make the rest of the team beat us.

Grant on the other hand (at least while with the Packers) has always had a pretty good passing attack around him which other team defenses focused on, which took pressure off of him.

Originally Posted by: beast 

This is a pretty common argument, that better passing O = better stats for RBs. I dont really see it, look at 2009 with the vikes. Its the only time AP had a legitimate passing attack, and he put up a career low for rushing average. Generally, the more running backs tend to be used, the average they put up, the more times in a game you run the ball with a certain back, the greater the chance he breaks a big one. This is the case with AP and its generally the case with Grant too, the more you give him the ball, the better he tends to do.

So, this idea that having a great passing attack makes it easier for a RB to look good, I really just dont buy it.

Originally Posted by: earthquake 

It's also Ryan Grant's responsibility to run into his own lineman while totaling more than 1,200 yards rushing. :)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

It is hard to argue with someone who ignores facts. Like Grant's 40 time and top 10 production.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 

Yeah but those hard facts by them selves don't mean one is better in a real team game like football is.

Because you also have to factor in Steven Jackson was the Rams offense for a while. Other teams game plans where don't let this guy kill us, make the rest of the team beat us.

Grant on the other hand (at least while with the Packers) has always had a pretty good passing attack around him which other team defenses focused on, which took pressure off of him.

Originally Posted by: beast 

Also, don't forget to consider Jackson as an every-down RB. In the Packer offense, he could catch probably 40-50 passes, which is something Grant doesn't do. Grant is a very solid RB, but Steven Jackson is among the best in the NFC.

Originally Posted by: porky88 

Are you directing this towards me and saying I'm ignoring those?

Because if you are then you're wrong.

Originally Posted by: beast