all_about_da_packers
14 years ago

Brandon Underwood and Pat Lee can be let go, they I feel had their chance and did nothing with it.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I'm not so sure that is the case. Lee has been injured quite a bit, to the point that when he is healthy he is mostly an afterthought.

Underwood, while having a promising off-season (minus that incident), got injured (shoulder) before the start of the season and was never right in the limited time he did play. I don't know if he had that much of an opportunity to get on the field with Shields emergence and his own injuries... I feel there still may be a chance for Underwood at least, if not also Lee.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Brandon Underwood and Pat Lee can be let go, they I feel had their chance and did nothing with it.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



I'm not so sure that is the case. Lee has been injured quite a bit, to the point that when he is healthy he is mostly an afterthought.

Underwood, while having a promising off-season (minus that incident), got injured (shoulder) before the start of the season and was never right in the limited time he did play. I don't know if he had that much of an opportunity to get on the field with Shields emergence and his own injuries... I feel there still may be a chance for Underwood at least, if not also Lee.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Once famously said ... if you have all the talent in the world and can't stay on the field, that talent means nothing.


Lee, Underwood, gone. They need replaced.
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Yerko
14 years ago
The fact that Woodson would be willing to move shows a lot of class...and the urge for another ring. With Woodson's injury, I think it would be a valuable option for him to move to safety and also for Burnett, to get some playing time and valuable experience.

This would only be a possibility though with another prime DB such as Aso. Unfortunately, this is not likely for Ted Thompson to do so I will not get my hopes up. Even though Woodson isn't recruiting him, maybe Ted Thompson at least takes a small look and makes a good deal with Aso, who is willing to take a pay cut for a contender.

Packers already have the best odds to win the next Super Bowl :thumbleft:
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warhawk
14 years ago
I would rather resign Jenkins and Hawk than spend the money on a CB.

Leave one of the best defenses in the NFL intact as possible. We sign this guy, as good as he is, and there is little to no chance these other two come back here.
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jdlax
14 years ago

I do see Chalres Woodson moving the safety.

By the middle of next season, he will move to safety because Sam Shields will be ready to be the number #2 corner.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



While Shields might be ready to be a #2, moving Charles to safety as a result assumes that we have some capable #3 CB... which we currently do not have.

Frankly, I'd be all for a move of Charles to Safety - he provides a skill set and plays the game in a way that is an excellent complement to Nick Collins' style. At the very least, I think C-Wood is a much, much better fit for Collins than Burnett was as a rookie. Maybe Burnett improves considerably in the tackling and hitting dept. in his second season - but until he does I believe pairing him with Collins (thereby forcing Collins to play closer to the line of scrimmage) is a waste of Collins' talent.

Having said all that, I just don't think Woodson can be moved to safety. You essentially go from having a solid starting trio to having Jarret Bush as your nickle. That is not much of an appealing option.

"millertime" wrote:



I could be reading this all wrong, but it seems like people are suggesting the move to safety for Woodson contingent on signing someone like Asomugha, which would leave the 3 top CBs as Williams/Asomugha/Sheilds. No?

EDIT: my bad. I just noticed that you were directly quoting someone suggesting Sheilds could be the #2 CB.

The Leafs still suck though. 😃
Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Where's jd4shizzle?
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jdlax
14 years ago
I think that might have fallen, mysteriously, by the wayside! 😃
peteralan71
14 years ago

We were never big spenders and we won the superbowl with that approach.

"Porforis" wrote:



As I recall our payroll was either the largest or top three last year.

"El3ment12" wrote:



Was this before or after we had 15 guys on IR to pay, as well as their replacements?
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blueleopard
14 years ago
We saw what happened in the Super Bowl. One injury to the secondary means everybody is easy pickings.

Stunting Shields and Burnett's growth? I beg to differ. Dom Capers uses something that all DC's use called "packages." Trust me, with Asomugha, Capers can get more creative. He wants the best people on the field in the best situations.

I'll understand the whole money issue. But let's be real here. Nnamdi Asomugha is the best cornerback in the NFL. The fact that he has no stats proves it. We took a chance on Charles Woodson, who was at the time--injured goods.

Asomugha was hurt his rookie year. Other than that, he's a reliable and consistent threat.

I'd rather he end up with us than the Jets.

You can talk about the future all you want, but we just won the Super Bowl. The future is now.
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14 years ago

We were never big spenders and we won the superbowl with that approach.

"peteralan71" wrote:



As I recall our payroll was either the largest or top three last year.

"Porforis" wrote:



Was this before or after we had 15 guys on IR to pay, as well as their replacements?

"El3ment12" wrote:




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Year / Total Payroll
2010
NFL Teams 	Total Payroll
NFL Oakland Raiders Team Salaries 	$ 152,389,371
NFL Dallas Cowboys Team Salaries 	$ 146,401,600
NFL Minnesota Vikings Team Salaries 	$ 133,354,045
NFL Cleveland Browns Team Salaries 	$ 131,916,300
NFL New Orleans Saints Team Salaries 	$ 131,531,820
NFL Pittsburgh Steelers Team Salaries 	$ 128,815,061
NFL Tennessee Titans Team Salaries 	$ 126,017,443
NFL Arizona Cardinals Team Salaries 	$ 122,110,110
NFL Jacksonville Jaguars Team Salaries 	$ 122,109,207
NFL Chicago Bears Team Salaries 	$ 120,065,819
NFL San Francisco 49ers Team Salaries 	$ 118,766,239
NFL New York Jets Team Salaries 	$ 116,910,097
NFL St. Louis Rams Team Salaries 	$ 116,677,660
NFL New York Giants Team Salaries 	$ 115,816,180
NFL Miami Dolphins Team Salaries 	$ 114,649,660
NFL Buffalo Bills Team Salaries 	$ 113,364,927
NFL Carolina Panthers Team Salaries 	$ 112,114,711
NFL Washington Redskins Team Salaries 	$ 111,963,684
NFL San Diego Chargers Team Salaries 	$ 111,813,340
NFL Cincinnati Bengals Team Salaries 	$ 109,727,880
NFL Philadelphia Eagles Team Salaries 	$ 109,557,398
NFL Houston Texans Team Salaries 	$ 108,445,418
NFL Tampa Bay Buccaneers Team Salaries 	$ 104,329,311
NFL Seattle Seahawks Team Salaries 	$ 102,985,710
NFL Atlanta Falcons Team Salaries 	$ 96,391,525
NFL Detroit Lions Team Salaries 	$ 95,827,117
NFL Denver Broncos Team Salaries 	$ 95,599,778
NFL Green Bay Packers Team Salaries 	$ 94,018,300 
NFL Indianapolis Colts Team Salaries 	$ 93,373,915
NFL New England Patriots Team Salaries 	$ 92,734,120
NFL Baltimore Ravens Team Salaries 	$ 90,713,965
NFL Kansas City Chiefs Team Salaries 	$ 83,623,776 

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