all_about_da_packers
14 years ago


We have rules.
We have consequences.

Rule is, no running onto the field.
Consequence is, getting tased.


Seems pretty simple to me. Can't handle being tased? don't run your ass on the field. again its a taser, not a bullet.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:




Well, why not use a gun next time? Hell, dude broke the rules, there should be consequences!

By your line of thinking the would be justified at shooting at your should you speed. That... makes no sense.


Edit: I'm... echoing NSD. Not sure if that's good or bad.... 😛
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Well, why not use a gun next time? Hell, dude broke the rules, there should be consequences!

By your line of thinking the would be justified at shooting at your should you speed. That... makes no sense.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



What part of ... its a taser, not a bullet do you fail to understand? By saying that, I'm saying, a bullet would be too much, but a taser is not.

You're right, it makes no sense and I appreciate you never trying to predict my line of thinking with asinine perceptions.


But what if someone decides that the consequence IS a bullet? That's the point. Where is the line drawn and who draws it? And how much flexibility are security personnel to be given over how flexible it is?

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



If the consequence WAS a bullet, that's too far. I think a tase fits the 'crime' of running onto the field if they are unable to apprehend the individual with the guards.



I'll try to paint this picture a little more clear for those who feel the need to take one comment and make it completely different than it's intended.


IF someone runs onto the field I feel they should first try to apprehend the person with manpower. If that fails, then subdue the individual with a taser. I would cautiously say a bullet would never suffice, but then again, if they are armed, a bullet might have to be the means of apprehension.








Was a taser out of line here? They tried to capture him with the guards, they failed. So they used the taser. I think that was fine.
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14 years ago


We have rules.
We have consequences.

Rule is, no running onto the field.
Consequence is, getting tased.


Seems pretty simple to me. Can't handle being tased? don't run your ass on the field. again its a taser, not a bullet.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:




Well, why not use a gun next time? Hell, dude broke the rules, there should be consequences!

By your line of thinking the would be justified at shooting at your should you speed. That... makes no sense.


Edit: I'm... echoing NSD. Not sure if that's good or bad.... :P

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I'd imagine common sense would factor in when deciding a consequence. You know.. like taser < 9mm gun. Not to mention the rule of thumb for a police officer firing their weapon at a suspect is to be fired upon first. I know that's not ALWAYS the case, but in the majority of them, it is.

I'd imagine it's safe to assume that a lowly security guard at a sporting event not only wouldn't have access to a gun, much less fire it at a moron running in circles.

The line is drawn with common sense. The same common sense that says, "Don't jump the fence at a professional stadium."
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all_about_da_packers
14 years ago


You're right, it makes no sense and I appreciate you never trying to predict my line of thinking with asinine perceptions.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I got what you were saying.

Thank you, though, for missing the implication in my words (which echo NSD's line of thought): at what point, and more importantly how, do you draw the line? Note, I stated: "I'm echoing NSD" for a reason...

I can be much more literal and explicit, if you prefer.
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all_about_da_packers
14 years ago

I'd imagine it's safe to assume that a lowly security guard at a sporting event not only wouldn't have access to a gun, much less fire it at a moron running in circles.

The line is drawn with common sense. The same common sense that says, "Don't jump the fence at a professional stadium."

"Formo" wrote:



That's the thing though, what is "common sense" to you is not common sense to me; case in point: it's common sense for me not to stun a damn kid that acts stupidly in running onto the field with no intention to hurt anyone.

Common sense, despite the appeal it's semantics may hold, is in fact not common at all. By that I mean that any qualification of common sense is going to vary person to person.

That's why I have an issue with drawing the distinction of going too far by appealing to common sense; the vagueness of the term limits any potential usefulness it may have in deciding the appropriate form of punishment.
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IronMan
14 years ago

I suggest they use fluffy bunny launchers to subdue the attention whore fans that run onto a field. Because, golly gee willickers.. we wouldn't want to hurt anyone's psyche. BTW, the fluffy bunnies I'm suggesting are stuffed toy rabbits.. Not the real animals. So you can put away your PETA pitchforks now.

That is all.

"Formo" wrote:

Seriously LMAO

+1
IronMan
14 years ago

it's common sense for me not to stun a damn kid that acts stupidly in running onto the field with no intention to hurt anyone.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:


How do you know what his intentions were? Exactly. You don't. Neither did the police officers. ANYONE who runs on a field at a sporting event, and is running from the police, should be considered a threat. Remember when the Royals first base coach was attacked by a father and son in Chicago in 2002? Security was slow to react, and by the time they did, the father/son had already punched the first base coach several times.

And after they apprehended the two guys, they found a pocket knife near first base where the attack occured. The son was 15!

The police did NOT use excessive force in this situation. Had they tased him AFTER he had been in custody, then THAT would have been excessive. He was running from police, they couldn't catch him, so they dropped him. Exactly how it should have been done.
Rockmolder
14 years ago

The police did NOT use excessive force in this situation. Had they tased him AFTER he had been in custody, then THAT would have been excessive. He was running from police, they couldn't catch him, so they dropped him. Exactly how it should have been done.

"IronMan" wrote:



That's exactly what I thought. You might not get tazered or dropped when you're speeding, but you will if you then run off. He was obviously running away.

Was it totally necessary? I don't know. Was it justified? Totally.
Zero2Cool
14 years ago


You're right, it makes no sense and I appreciate you never trying to predict my line of thinking with asinine perceptions.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



I got what you were saying.

Thank you, though, for missing the implication in my words (which echo NSD's line of thought): at what point, and more importantly how, do you draw the line? Note, I stated: "I'm echoing NSD" for a reason...

I can be much more literal and explicit, if you prefer.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



So if I understand this correctly (and thats not likely) you took my comment, exaggerated the shit out of it and then grouped it as stating it was 'my line of thinking'. Why does that seem really moronic to me?

Where do you draw the line you say? Umm, again, what part of 'its a taser not a bullet' don't you get? Anyone who can think surely could understand I believe there is line in the sand and it stops before a bullet is used.

Just because Rourke and you both were mistaken, it doesn't mean it's right. Should I use some outlandish foolish analogy to prove that point like you did?


As Rourke stated ... the question is ... was the taser the proper method to remove him from the field? I say this, again for those who continue to miss it.
I feel, first using manpower (meaning the guards), if they fail to apprehend him, then use the taser. How long do they pursue him before tasing? That's another debate. I think with 5 guards, they should be able to capture said person within a few minutes tops.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

The police did NOT use excessive force in this situation. Had they tased him AFTER he had been in custody, then THAT would have been excessive. He was running from police, they couldn't catch him, so they dropped him. Exactly how it should have been done.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



That's exactly what I thought. You might not get tazered or dropped when you're speeding, but you will if you then run off. He was obviously running away.

Was it totally necessary? I don't know. Was it justified? Totally.

"IronMan" wrote:



OMG WHATS NEXT ROCK, SHOOTING SOMEONE FOR JAY-WALKING? WHAT KIND OF PERSON ARE YOu!!


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