Our future LT: Breno Giacomini?· Page 4

dfosterf
Veteran Member

15 years ago

How do you guys explain Chad Clifton then? 2nd round pick, starter from day 1. Ross Verba came in and started as a rookie too.

It can happen, just not likely.

"Rockmolder" wrote:

Tauscher was a 7th rounder.

It all comes down to necessity. They both had to start because of injuries, if I'm correct. We actually might've found our RT of the future that same way this year in Lang.

Like you said, it's not very likely, though. For every Clifton and Tauscher, you get tons of Giacominis and Costons.

"DakotaT" wrote:

Vladimir Ducasse LT Mass. Projected as a guard, or a guard tackle. Some have him as low as a 7th rounder, some as high as a 2nd rounder. I say if he's there in the 5th, you take him, I really like his Haitian voodoo potential on Jared Allen. What say you?

Homework assignment, lad

:thumbleft:

warhawk
Senior Member

15 years ago

#32

The safe play is putting Lang at RT because I think he would only continue to improve and he was pretty decent over there but I really would like to see them move him to guard.

I think he would be a stud at guard and with Sitton and Spitz along with him the interior of the line would be very stout.

I don't see Lang as a long term LT. I think we do need to go there in the first round even though they may not be ready to step in week one.

Your LT needs to be one of the best players on the team. With all the guys we need to resign I can't see FA solving it so we need to invest over there.

"The train is leaving the station."

Rockmolder
Honored Member

15 years ago

#33

How do you guys explain Chad Clifton then? 2nd round pick, starter from day 1. Ross Verba came in and started as a rookie too.

It can happen, just not likely.

"dfosterf" wrote:

"Rockmolder" wrote:

"DakotaT" wrote:

I can find very little tape on him.

From what I've been reading, though, this kid could be quite a project on the pass blocking side. Something I don't like to see in a LT. As a guard, though, I don't see why you wouldn't go with a high potential kid in the 5th. Sounds like a Ted Thompson pick to me.

British
Registered Topic Starter

15 years ago

#34

"warhawk" wrote:

Interesting point.

How many playoff calibre teams have relatively poor play from their LT?

Are we the playoff team with the worst LT or are there others?

Pack93z
Select Member

15 years ago

#35

I still see no one offering up why Lang isn't a candidate for the long term on the left tackle spot.. pick apart his game and tell me why you think he can't be that left tackle. Please.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

dfosterf
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#36

"British" wrote:

Interesting point.

How many playoff calibre teams have relatively poor play from their LT?

Are we the playoff team with the worst LT or are there others?

"warhawk" wrote:

I'm not prepared to categorically eliminate the possibility of either a trade or an FA aquisition. If we are eliminating a Chad Clifton, we are also eliminating a Chad Clifton contract. Here is Chad's numbers for 2009:

Base: 4,367,500.00 PRSB: 1,666,666.00 LTBE: 2,000,000.00

That's a lot of coinage. (8,034,166.00)

Good opportunity to revisit the positional analysis site provided by Pack93z some time ago. You can click an individual name for details--the quick tutorial--flat line is average.

Profootballfocus; tackles

British
Registered Topic Starter

15 years ago

#37

I still see no one offering up why Lang isn't a candidate for the long term on the left tackle spot.. pick apart his game and tell me why you think he can't be that left tackle. Please.

"pack93z" wrote:

As I said in the thread opener I'm no expert.

But I've read that his arm length is a little short for a prototypical LT.

And maybe he doesn't have ideal size or overall athelticism to perform in space - but those two are guesses.

Pack93z
Select Member

15 years ago

#38

Joe Thomas has 32.5" arms

TJ Lang.. 32.75 arms..

Anyone want to argue that Thomas isn't a franchise left tackle?

British.. this isn't directed towards anyone in particular.. but other than prototypical height.. I don't see another weakness.. especially after watching him at this level.

My point here is that technique wise, I see no glaring weakness.. needs polish.

I really want someone to find and explain what I am missing in the kid.

With that said.. if you get a blue chip prospect sitting on the draft board staring you in the face next season.. take him.. but I wouldn't reach for one with Lang on the roster. I am convinced after studying Lang after the draft.. Lang could line up anywhere on the line.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

nerdmann
Premier Member

15 years ago

#39

"pack93z" wrote:

Worst case scenario, he's our LT. So I think we're ok. They'll try to get someone better, though.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

British
Registered Topic Starter

15 years ago

#40

"pack93z" wrote:

Good comparison.

I honestly don't know the knock on Lang then.

With fewer free agents and no top 20 draft pick Lang could be our starter there next season by default.

I suspect we'll not know until training camp. They'll let draft picks, Barbre, Lang and Clifton (if he's back) duke it out for LT and Breno, Tausch and Lang battle for RT and see who wins.

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