zombieslayer
15 years ago
Well, I'm happy we won, don't get me wrong. Except it's a bittersweet victory as we lost 2 Pro Bowlers for the season.

The thing is, WHO are we? Are we a Playoff caliber team?

Green and gold lenses aside, I think we are. Take a good look at our team. These are our Pro Bowlers - Driver, Woody, Harris, Kampy, Collins. Our QB is arguably the 3rd best in the NFC.

I've been down on Grant earlier this year because my expectations for him are so high. It's like if you have two kids, one ends up in the Gifted program and the other one is "normal." As much as you try not to, you're going to have higher expectations for the one who rated Gifted. Grant can be a top 10 RB as we saw in 2007.

Then we have Greg Jennings. Although never a Pro Bowler, in fantasy production he was #12 in '07 and #4 in '08. That's pretty dang good. Finley is pretty dang good as well.

On the defensive side, Barnett is solid. I love Cullen Jenkins. I already named our Pro Bowlers. All around, it's a solid team.

I want us to go deep in the Playoffs this year because I have expectations that we have the team to do it. What is preventing us from a deep Playoff run?

1) Morale. I don't think MM is a Mike Ditka type of guy. Heck, even Singletary is significantly better than MM at pumping up a team. He gets a team that lacks in talent compared to ours thinking they're a Playoff caliber team.

2) Playcalling. MM gets soft once he gets his opponents against the ropes. He needs to finish them.

3) Adjustments. Sometimes MM makes good adjustments. Sometimes he doesn't. He's kind of erratic when it comes to adjusting.

So in summary, I'm not trying to be a Debbie Downer. It's just I have high expectations for this team. Maybe it's my fault thinking the Packers are better than we really are. Maybe I'm a Mike Singletary.
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage
(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷
Trippster
15 years ago
When the plays are not ececuted to success, it is bad playcalling and McCarthey should be fired. When the same plays are executed and successful, the the playcalling is better and Mac gets to stick around.


I get it. It is McCarthy after all that is executing the plays, missing the blocks, blitz reads, etc. I get it.

It is my opinion that some plays, while not exaclty what I would call ideal, are called simply to set up a play later. most of you will say the pass to Jennings was a great call. My uneducated guess is that another play earlier (successful or not) set up that play.

Fire his ass!

I get it..
"Let Your Light Shine!"
15 years ago


This team is 6-4 Will be 7-4 on Thursday.

"RaiderPride" wrote:



if we as fans should have learned anything from the Tampa game it's that talk like this needs to stop.

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

bozz_2006 wrote:


15 years ago


This team is 6-4 Will be 7-4 on Thursday.

"TwinkieGorilla" wrote:



if we as fans should have learned anything from the Tampa game it's that talk like this needs to stop.

"RaiderPride" wrote:



Right. I'm sure Pittsburgh and Cincinnati were thinking the same thing this past weekend. Anything can happen in the NFL. For divisional games, it's even more unpredictable.
UserPostedImage
jbshell04
15 years ago
RP TRIPPSTER
I don't believe I saw any post besides yours suggesting even in saracasm that MM job is at risk.
But let's face facts execution aside this team is Jeckyl and Hyde half to half. Take the Minnesota games, Tampa, San Fran,
The only games the have been consistant in were detroit Cleveland. This speaks to the fact that this team is emotionally up and down
I am therefor I think.
warhawk
15 years ago
Mcarthy didn't go into a shell or anything like that and to suggest he was riding the lead is not accurate. Three times in the second half we were moving the ball and there was a sack, an intentional grounding, and a hold on Wells after a very nice run and all three messed up drives when we were on the move.

I agree with Greg C. the 49'rs made some plays in the second half and whoever is saying they can't play or are a lousy team forgets they had the Vikings whipped in the Metrodome. Beat. IMO they are certainly better than bad.

I don't know about some here but I just want a W on Thursday. I don't care how we get it and how badly we beat them the last time means nothing to me. Just win.

Then we have 10 days to get ready for Baltimore.
"The train is leaving the station."
4PackGirl
15 years ago
i never remotely suggested or hinted at the idea that mccarthy should be fired. i simply don't necessarily agree with the way he goes into a shell when we take what appears to be a commanding lead.

maybe it's the killer instinct in me but i enjoy a coach who puts the other team away completely, with malice. dang i'm a mean biotch, aren't i?? lol.
buckeyepackfan
15 years ago

Fire his ass... Fire the whole damn coaching staff.

Bring in a new staff right now!

This team is 6-4 Will be 7-4 on Thursday.

Right after Thanksgiving is the perfect time for a complete house cleaning.. The new staff will have and extra three days of preparation before the next game to turn this thing around.

It is disgusting. Part of the blame has to go on Aaron, Donald Driver. and Jennings as well. They have the responsibility to score more often in the second half. Get rid of them too. Start with Aaron. Cut his ass on the same day they fire Mike. He has always been a Mike McCarthy. type of guy. Makes me sick.

6-4 Freaking sick....

"RaiderPride" wrote:



Finally!!!! RP has finally figured it out. :icon_smile: :icon_smile:

RP, you have been around here long enough to know doesn't matter what The Packs record is, it is never good enough.
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
DakotaT
15 years ago

dang i'm a mean biotch, aren't i?? lol.

"4PackGirl" wrote:



Most hot chicks are. It's that catering you get, that makes you think irrationally. Don't worry about though sweet pants, it's a form of appreciation. :thumbleft:
UserPostedImage
Greg C.
15 years ago
Something I didn't get around to saying in my earlier post (I was kind of annoyed when I wrote it) is that it is common in the NFL for a team to run up a big lead in the first half and then struggle to hold it in the second half. People often say that championship-caliber teams don't allow that to happen, but that's not true. Sometimes they do. The Vikings are one of the best teams in the league this year and they let the Packers sneak back into both of those games. But there never appeared to be much of a chance that the Packers would actually win. I felt the same way about the 49ers yesterday.
blank
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (36m) : Jameson Williams is done at 24 years old? What? He's a WR, not QB. I'm missing something here haha
wpr (1h) : Tomorrow is almost here.
packerfanoutwest (1h) : would you want him if Pack needed a back up qb?
packerfanoutwest (1h) : JW is done......stick a fork in him
Zero2Cool (3h) : You should. He goes to AFC that helps Packers.
packerfanoutwest (13h) : don't care
Zero2Cool (18h) : Lions shopping Jameson Williams?
packerfanoutwest (22-Apr) : Packers General Manager Brian Gutekunst says Green Bay’s roster can win, even without adding anyone in the draft.
Zero2Cool (22-Apr) : It's a poor design. New site has SignalR like our gameday chat
wpr (22-Apr) : Ah today's Shout was very quick to post.
wpr (22-Apr) : now 3
Zero2Cool (22-Apr) : Who? What?
beast (22-Apr) : What is he supposed to say? He doesn't want players currently on the team?
Martha Careful (21-Apr) : meh
Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : Sounds like Walker and Wyatt will be with Packers for beyond 2026
Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : It's so awesome.
Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : new site fan shout post fast
wpr (21-Apr) : Slow posting in Fan shout.
wpr (21-Apr) : Only 4
wpr (21-Apr) : Only 4
Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : If only we had a topic to read about and discuss it. That's something new website must have!!!
dfosterf (21-Apr) : Justice Musqueda over at Acme Packing put up an excellent synopsis of the Packers 1st round options this am
wpr (19-Apr) : 5 days
beast (18-Apr) : 6 days
wpr (17-Apr) : 7 days
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : sounds like Packers don't get good compensation, Jaire staying
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Trade, cut or keep
dfosterf (16-Apr) : that from Jaire
dfosterf (16-Apr) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.
dfosterf (16-Apr) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission
dfosterf (16-Apr) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : That someone ... likely the agent.
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"
dfosterf (16-Apr) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that
dfosterf (16-Apr) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers are receiving interest in Jaire Alexander but a trade is not imminent
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Jalen Ramsey wants to be traded. He's never happy is he?
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : two 1sts in 2022 and two 2nd's in 2023 and 2024
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers had fortunate last three drafts.
dfosterf (15-Apr) : I may have to move
dfosterf (15-Apr) : My wife just told the ancient Japanese sushi dude not enough rice under his fish
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
59m / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

18h / Packers Draft Threads / Zero2Cool

21h / Random Babble / Martha Careful

22-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

22-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

17-Apr / Random Babble / wpr

13-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

12-Apr / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Zero2Cool

11-Apr / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Rockmolder

2-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

2-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

1-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

1-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

31-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.