With the exception of two huge TD allowed, Chillar has been playing good FB. Hawk really doesn't have anything to be ashamed of in splitting time with him.

This talk is about as ridiculous as saying Kampman is not good. Or Rodgers is no good. Hawk simply does his job. Now I don't want to see the team lose, but I would love for Bishop to get a full start and game time, just so we can see that he isn't even close to Hawk, in talent or playing ability.

You take Hawk out and we lose big in our run protection.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:

The article is very opinionated. I think Hawk will be back unless the Packers get a good trade offer in the off-season, but to suggest that he'd have to take a pay cut or his days in GB are numbered will end up being just plain wrong in my view.

"porky88" wrote:

Hawk does his job, and in some instances, not well enough. That said, if Barnett is still in there, I'd be pissed too if I wasn't getting playing time. I know, different positions, but the weakest link IMO is Barnett.

"LambeauEast" wrote:

If anything this thread shows me an elevated quality of personnel in the LB area. There are a lot of teams that would take any of the guys getting a little ripped here and I wonder on a collective basis how many teams would trade the entire package of LB's we have for theirs. I am guessing there would be SEVERAL teams standing at the door to do that.

This team gets disected by the fans because they watch every single play of every single game. When they make a good play it's "what they are supposed to do" and when they don't it's right there for everyone to see.

Watch a game involving a team with good LB's as closely as you watch ours and you will see they have their screwups and missed tackles, etc., just like our guys. It's just that YOU DON'T CARE about what other teams do or how often they screw up.

If there is anything to say about our group is that they don't jump out or have the big names but from what I have seen a lot of those guys are OVERRATED because outside the hightlight reel they make bad plays just as often as our guys it's just that the multitude of Packer fans don't see them.

"warhawk" wrote:

"coltonja" wrote:

Hawk is a good player but I think with the 3-4 he is not the athlete you see at LB in other really good 3-4 defenses.

If you look at the interior LB's on the big time 3-4 defenses it's fairly obvious Hawk is not that kind of player in terms of speed and just overall athletic ability.

Bishop moves around out there more like a 3-4 interior LB. The problem is too often he moves too far out of his responsibility at times and is inconsistant or he would be on the field more too.

The flip side of this is how well Chillar has responded to the new scheme. At the end of the day that's what's keeping Hawk off the field more. We all wondered who might pop out and really take off in this defense and Chillar has been far and away the big surprise guy there.

It's pretty simple. If Hawk wants more snaps he has to figure out how to play better than Chillar and there are portions of games where it seems like he's in on almost every play.

"warhawk" wrote: