How long are the Packers going to hold on to Jordan Love?· Page 2

beast
Select Member

2 years ago

stopped reading right there. Gonna get a petition for banning such phrases.

Originally Posted by: bboystyle

Well, haters are gonna hate... just like how Vikings fans hate on Rodgers...

That being said...

As has been the case throughout his career, Kirk Cousins was excellent when given time to throw the football. He graded by PFF as the No. 1 clean-pocket passer and produced a 116.7 quarterback rating (second best). And Cousins wasn’t just hitting wide open receivers when given time to throw. He ranked sixth in big-time throw percentage when clean and ranked seventh in average depth of target.

https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/.amp/vikings/everything-we-learned-about-kirk-cousins-from-pffs-qb-annual wrote:

His numbers when pressured, by the way, were much the opposite of his clean-pocket play. Cousins ranked 17th in PFF grade and averaged just 5.1 yards per attempt when under pressure, which is a full yard below league average.

Sorry, but when he's not pressured, Cousins is great... it's just that he folds when under pressure.

nerdmann

Premier Member

2 years ago

#12

Film breakdown on Love.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

wpr
Preferred Member

2 years ago

#13

Are we in a hurry to get rid of him? What a weird headline. Besides, Rodgers is playing in 2022 and 2023, then retiring. Tom Brady is retiring in 2022 and I highly doubt Rodgers wants to share attention with Tommy Boy. This isn't a knock on Rodgers, I would stay one more year to avoid that avalanche too! haha

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I don't think "WE" are in a hurry to get rid of him. I think there is a significant group of media people and fans that are.

wpr
Preferred Member

2 years ago

#14

Well, haters are gonna hate... just like how Vikings fans hate on Rodgers...

That being said...

Sorry, but when he's not pressured, Cousins is great... it's just that he folds when under pressure.

Originally Posted by: beast

Boy you really went out of your way to define a "great" QB didn't you? Why not add:
Early starting Sunday games (Because we know he folds under the pressure of prime time games. 😉 )
At home
Against sub .500 teams

My point is greatness has to overcome adversity in order to be considered great. However even the great Aaron frik'n Rodgers has a much higher rating when he's in a clean pocket than when he is under pressure. Actually I heard the PFF grade for Rodgers under pressure earlier this summer and it is surprisingly poor. Especially considering he is one of the all time greats.

With that said, Cousins is an above average QB. Probably a top 10-12 in the league at this time.

wpr
Preferred Member

2 years ago

#15

Going back to the original question- how long do the Packers keep Love? A minimum of 5 years. They will use the 5th year option on him.

Pugger
Member

2 years ago

#16

Film breakdown on Love.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

That second INT our WR never got open and the defender was in the better position to make the catch.

Pugger
Member

2 years ago

#17

Going back to the original question- how long do the Packers keep Love? A minimum of 5 years. They will use the 5th year option on him.

Originally Posted by: wpr

Yes, they aren't gonna give up on a first round pick like this before then.

go.pack.go.
Veteran Member

2 years ago

#18

I know it’s just one game, but I didn’t see much last night that makes me feel like Love has significantly improved like everyone has been saying.

bboystyle
Member

2 years ago

#19

Well, haters are gonna hate... just like how Vikings fans hate on Rodgers...

That being said...

Sorry, but when he's not pressured, Cousins is great... it's just that he folds when under pressure.

Originally Posted by: beast

So in order for him to be great, he has to have an ideal situation that is rarely seen in the NFL on a consistent basis.

Thanks for proving my point 🙂

beast
Select Member

2 years ago

#20

So in order for him to be great, he has to have an ideal situation that is rarely seen in the NFL on a consistent basis.

Thanks for proving my point :)

Originally Posted by: bboystyle

Except you didn't make a point, you were just a pain in the ass because someone said something nice about a division rival, and then cried like a bitch.

But yes, he's great with no pressure, and he sucks with pressure, with a much more extreme than normal.

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