I don't think anyone is saying you can't get quality WRs after the first round. But that doesn't mean you pass up high quality WRs in the first because of that fact.

I want Brian to take who he feels are the best players available, and players that will make the Packers stronger when he makes his selection/s in round 1.

I also have no problem with Brian packaging picks and moving up above the Saints to select Chris Olave at #15.😏

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 

I don't think anyone is saying you can't get quality WRs after the first round. But that doesn't mean you pass up high quality WRs in the first because of that fact.

I want Brian to take who he feels are the best players available, and players that will make the Packers stronger when he makes his selection/s in round 1.

I also have no problem with Brian packaging picks and moving up above the Saints to select Chris Olave at #15.😏

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 

Regardless of position. Gute will take his best players available.

In 2020 he was high on Justin Jefferson, but couldn't find a trade partner to move up that high, and then Jefferson was gone. He then went with the next BPA on his board and went up and got J-Love.

No, it wouldn't have been a "waste" to draft Jefferson in the first round.

You try and get your top guy, no matter the round.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 

And Gutey's not an analytics guy, right?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

Nope, he's not a big analytics guy. Not sure you are aware what analytics means. It has nothing to do with BPA and staying true to your draft board.

Analytics is the systematic analysis of data and statistics.

As I have explained to you before, Gute doesn't solely base his feelings on a player off of analytics.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 

Look at the Packers draft picks and their "RAS". He seems to really like athletic types. You've said what Gutekunst doesn't do, but let's hear what he does do. How does he grade guys? How does he value player x over player y?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Well, as I've said before, Gute learned pretty much everything he knows from Ted. They both put a lot of stock in seeing a player play in person(and talking to a player), and watching the tape. They both also highly value a players character. I am not saying that Gute completely ignores stats and data, but it's not a big factor in his scouting. This knowledge of Gute comes from one of his right hand men Jon-Eric Sullivan. What I know about Gute comes from hearing him speak publicly, in pressers and etc, I've never spoken to Brian personally. Jon-Eric obviously knows him well. I've known Jon-Eric since his days as a scout in the Central Plains, circa 2008.

You are correct, Gute likes big athletic players. I am not sure how that relates to analytics? Not saying that you said it did, but you spoke about "RAS" as if that is something that may lead you to believe he focuses a lot on analytics.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 

Guteys loves relative athletc score. Look at Rashan Gary. Look at Stokes. Stokes has all the measurables, needs to work on ball skills. Which Gutey would see watching tape.

But Gutey didn't take Stokes for his ball skills, he took him for his measurables, whaling are stellar. High RAS.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

Well, as I've said before, Gute learned pretty much everything he knows from Ted. They both put a lot of stock in seeing a player play in person(and talking to a player), and watching the tape. They both also highly value a players character. I am not saying that Gute completely ignores stats and data, but it's not a big factor in his scouting. This knowledge of Gute comes from one of his right hand men Jon-Eric Sullivan. What I know about Gute comes from hearing him speak publicly, in pressers and etc, I've never spoken to Brian personally. Jon-Eric obviously knows him well. I've known Jon-Eric since his days as a scout in the Central Plains, circa 2008.

You are correct, Gute likes big athletic players. I am not sure how that relates to analytics? Not saying that you said it did, but you spoke about "RAS" as if that is something that may lead you to believe he focuses a lot on analytics.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation