WR Drafted in Round One· Page 3

PackersNation
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3 years ago

You said Gutekunst doesn't do analytics, so therefore you dismissed that. I was asking if he doesn't use analytics, what does he use. And then I mentioned "RAS" as more input. I'm more interested in being informed and educated than being right. It's one of my many amazing qualities as a human being.

As for "RAS", I'm not even sure what it is to be honest, but others have linked high "RAS" scores with Packers drafted players. So, there's a correlation somehow, someway.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I just don't see RAS as relating to Brian Gutekunst being a "analytics guy." That is what I was getting at. More so directed at Nerdmann than you.

As to what RAS is...RAS is taking all the athletic testing and combining it into a lump sum, then comparing it to other players at the same position.

As you said, Gute likes and drafts athletic players. Who doesn't?

Brian indeed does like players who are tall, fast, agile, strong, and have a good vertical, among other things. Those players will have a high RAS score. Hence a lot of them have been drafted by the Packers. It was the same in the Thompson and Wolf eras. Was Ron Wolf a analytics guy? Nope, and neither was Ted.

RAS is a fairly new metric that is the brain child of Kent Lee Platte, who happens to be a Lions fan. His credibility is already in question.😋

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

3 years ago

#22

Rodgers on @PatMcAfeeShow
“I’m sure Packers nation will be wondering why we didn’t take a receiver or trade up. At this point you just have to have faith in the org…Whoever we bring in tomorrow & the rest of this draft, I’m going to put in the time to work w those guys.”

go.pack.go.
Veteran Member

3 years ago

#23

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Love to hear that.

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

3 years ago

#24

Nope, he's not a big analytics guy. Not sure you are aware what analytics means. It has nothing to do with BPA and staying true to your draft board.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation

Who is this guy? In his contemptuous, supercilious tone and argumentative, confrontational I catch a whiff of the stench of that guy with the rhyming handle who was banned here a couple years ago. He always claimed to have a direct line to the thinking inside the Packers' front office, too. And whereas this guy is almost fanatically pro-Gutekunst, that guy was equally pro-Thompson.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

3 years ago

#25

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

We talking,.... not that.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

nerdmann
Premier Member

3 years ago

#26

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

This dude seems younger.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

nerdmann
Premier Member

3 years ago

#27

Love to hear that.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go.

It almost seems like they legit came to an amicable understanding.

Murphy's interview with Grossi almost made it sound like Aaron agreed to stick around and play until Love was ready, then he'd step aside. It's weird man.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

Mucky Tundra
Honored Member

3 years ago

#28

There's been some rumblings about a few WR's who are not attending VOLUNTARY workouts with hopes of getting a new contract.

Deebo Samuel 36th overall
AJ Brown 51st overall
DK Metcalf 64th overall
Terry McLaurin 76th overall

Are you noticing a trend? All were drafted 2nd or 3rd round. Why would a team pay them top dollar in a draft that is said to be heavy with WR talent?

Someone on Tweeter said, "Deebo, McLaurin, Metcalf, & AJ Brown all getting drafted after first round in 2019 and wanting new deals at same time hurts them in sense that some teams will do math and think “we’ll just draft one”."

I have to agree with that.

In other words Packers fans, we will not be trading for one of the aforementioned WR's and if we don't draft one in round one, fret not, there's good pickings in round two and three.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Little late to this but I think those 4 WRs also have the same agent. If one gets paid they're all gonna want it.

Edit: Turns out 3 of them have the same agent: Metcalf, Deebo and Brown.

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