Rashan Gary, Darnell Savage start to make Packers' 2019 draft look better· Page 5

Mucky Tundra
Honored Member

4 years ago

IIRC, Gary played out of position. He was playing either DE or DT and played more against the run. GB flipped him to OLB with his primary duty of rushing the passer. With a new position, system and responsibilities it is going to take him a while to get to a high level of proficiency.

Originally Posted by: wpr

Gary was also used to soak up blocks a lot so other guys like Devin Bush could make plays (IIRC post draft analysis). He's clearly on the ascent.

“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

4 years ago

#42

I sincerely hope that you didn’t hurt yourself 😂

Originally Posted by: yooperfan

I ain't that damn old, geez! lol

I've been on the Gary doing gooder train for months, but meteoric feels a bit hyperbolic, lol.

Pack93z
Select Member

4 years ago

#43

You mean, we shouldn't judge a draft class based simply on year one results? Color me AMAZED!! 🙂

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

4 years ago

#44

You mean, we shouldn't judge a draft class based simply on year one results? Color me AMAZED!! :)

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

I'm still puzzled how media types haven't capitalized on year three analysis. If I was an editor, that's exactly what I'd be asking for. We have a plethora of data over the last three years of these teams and players. Let's analyze how they have progressed from year one, to year two to year three. It feels like damn gold mine of information.

I know it flies in the face of the instant grading, but I would find it more appealing.

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

4 years ago

#45

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

A 3 year running tally would be fantastic.

Everything has to be right now. Instant gratification. waiting three years before you criticize a team for their draft? Seriously? Most fans can't tell you who was drafted 1st in 2017 anymore. However, Packers fans know who the bares traded up to take 2nd. 🤣

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

4 years ago

#46

Originally Posted by: wpr

And that's the beauty though! You can literally start a rolling three year annual draft analysis at any freaking time! You could even do a deep dive into the trades, e.g. 2017. Buwahahaha

VinceLambeauStarr
Member

4 years ago

#47

I'm forever going to prescribe to "Until they are cut/traded/with another team" to assign a negative label.

Every road points to it being the appropriate
view when looking at this roster top to toe but also, just...in general.

Hands up who wanted Davante cut five years ago? Yeah, me too. Now when I look at him, wish there was a camera that followed him around for every snap to appreciate the nuanced artistry of the position.

So, with picks that may not make immediate sense or are monopolised with the Kiper and analyst view, so be it - the journey of development is exciting and for 2019 1st rounders, Good outcomes.

In Gute I trust, and that includes drafting Jordan Love, not drafting a receiver.

Zero2Cool is my captain.

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

4 years ago

#48

I'm forever going to prescribe to "Until they are cut/traded/with another team" to assign a negative label.

Every road points to it being the appropriate
view when looking at this roster top to toe but also, just...in general.

Hands up who wanted Davante cut five years ago? Yeah, me too. Now when I look at him, wish there was a camera that followed him around for every snap to appreciate the nuanced artistry of the position.

So, with picks that may not make immediate sense or are monopolised with the Kiper and analyst view, so be it - the journey of development is exciting and for 2019 1st rounders, Good outcomes.

In Gute I trust, and that includes drafting Jordan Love, not drafting a receiver.

Originally Posted by: VinceLambeauStarr

There is. The networks don't air most of the clips when the ball doesn't come to him.

As for wanting to get rid of him 5 years ago, not me. I am willing to wait it out with almost every player. He was the #3 WR on the depth chart. I don't get too worked up about what #3 does. They certainly don't get 100 targets or 1000 yards or even 10 TDs. His 53% catch rate was more than a little frustrating.

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