Rashan Gary, Darnell Savage start to make Packers' 2019 draft look better

wpr
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4 years ago

It takes a little while for draft picks to get up to speed and to excel in the NFL. A game or two doesn't make a career but Gary and Savage are starting to look better and with them improving the defense as a whole will improve too.

Green Bay's two first-rounders from 2019 appear to be reaching their potential, good timing for a defense that needs them down the stretch.

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nerdmann
Premier Member

4 years ago

The Great Nick Collins took until year 3 to really ascend. His dad had cancer in year 2.

Donald Driver took maybe 5 years, or should I say, kept ascending for 5 years. He came in with Charles Lee and Corey Bradford. Unlike them, he kept taking further steps.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

4 years ago

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Exactly. There are very few plug and play guys no matter what round they are taken in. McCarthy always talked about looking for layers to take a big step in year 2. It didn't happen half the time. Some did it in year 3. Others later and quite a few, never.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

4 years ago

All drafts are a crap shoot.
You never know for sure who will pan out until they are on the field for an extended time.
College great doesn’t always end up as NFL great. And late picks that you don’t expect much from, sometimes end up being special.

nerdmann
Premier Member

4 years ago

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

Aaron Jones, baby!

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

wpr
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4 years ago

Aaron Jones, baby!

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Uh, no. 448 yards on 81 carries with 4 tds isn't lighting the world on fire. But for a ROOKIE who is down the depth chart, it's not too bad.

dhazer
Veteran Member

4 years ago

I think he was referring to the GOAT Tom Brady

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

Smokey
Veteran Member

4 years ago

I think he was referring to the GOAT Tom Brady

Originally Posted by: dhazer

Good one.

The other posters in this thread have all got green mouths from drinking too much Kool-Aid. It is fine indeed to cheer on the home team's players, their is a line that can be approached and but not crossed. One opinion frim one source (even ESPN) is not everyone's truth and should not be required that way.

A 1st round draft pick may not be a ready made starter, however they should present more than just physical strength or speed. The true measure of a player rest between their ears. Players don't even get a tryout in the NFL unless they are strong and fast (unless maybe your a Kicker/Punter).

IMO, Rashan Gary"s training has not elevated his mental skills and that was where he fails. He either does not see his advantages quickly enough to react and beat his opponent or he sees not his advantages/disadvantages at all. Lots of fellows are nice guys and yet they still "slow:. I'd try to unload him if possible following the season and move on.

D. Savage has never really impressed me and too could be used as trade bait.

KRK
Veteran Member

4 years ago

Smokey sulked

The other posters in this thread have all got green mouths from drinking too much Kool-Aid. ...
A 1st round draft pick may not be a ready made starter, however they should present more than just physical strength or speed. The true measure of a player rest between their ears. ...
IMO, Rashan Gary"s training has not elevated his mental skills and that was where he fails. He either does not see his advantages quickly enough to react and beat his opponent or he sees not his advantages/disadvantages at all...
D. Savage has never really impressed me and too could be used as trade bait.

Smokey,

You and I are both impatient people. We demand immediate performance especially in top 3 rounds.

I can remember this second round draft pick they had a wide out a number of years back. The friggin guy seemed to drop every other pass thrown to him and made bad reads, running the wrong pattern...in short HE SUCKED.

I screamed at the TV "Cut the guy!!! Are you blind!!" But the 'idiots' stuck with him for some unknown reason

The guy's name was Davante Adams

on THAT one....I actually did need to eat crow.

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

4 years ago

#10

Smokey sulkedSmokey,

You and I are both impatient people. We demand immediate performance especially in top 3 rounds.

I can remember this second round draft pick they had a wide out a number of years back. The friggin guy seemed to drop every other pass thrown to him and made bad reads, running the wrong pattern...in short HE SUCKED.

I screamed at the TV "Cut the guy!!! Are you blind!!" But the 'idiots' stuck with him for some unknown reason

The guy's name was Davante Adams

on THAT one....I actually did need to eat crow.

Originally Posted by: KRK

When people were asking for his head and saying it was stupid to throw the ball to him, I was saying the dude has a wicked release and gets open. That's why he gets the ball thrown to him. I loved his route running, but felt it was a mistake to play through the ankle injury. And just when I was finally tired of fighting the mob for him, he started flashing good things again.

I'll almost always give a guy 2 or 3 years before wanting him gone. Names that come to mind that I didn't wanna see anymore were Ahmad Carrol and Jamal Reynolds. I don't think I gave those guys more than a half season before losing hope. I think the player I kept the dream hope alive too long was Justin Harrell. He just couldn't get healthy, let alone stay healthy.

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