beast
4 years ago
The Packers edge rushers will probably get a tougher test next week no matter which teams wins.

Gary had a great game, and they're using stunts smartly to help the edge rushers. I think Gary and Clark had a great one... and Gary's effort is GREAT!
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yooperfan
4 years ago
I’ve been hard on Gary since he was drafted so high.
I didn’t think much of him at Michigan and was shocked that the Packers drafted him in the first round. I never saw that coming.
I’m certainly happy to see him starting to live up to his draft status.
I apologize Rashan, keep up the good work!
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4 years ago
I think the edge guys had a very good game. Whitworth at LT is pretty damn good. Haverstein, their RT is not that good, and that is where most, but certainly not all of our edge pressure came from.

NO and TB, RT's are better.
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4 years ago

I’ve been hard on Gary since he was drafted so high.
I didn’t think much of him at Michigan and was shocked that the Packers drafted him in the first round. I never saw that coming.
I’m certainly happy to see him starting to live up to his draft status.
I apologize Rashan, keep up the good work!

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



That's beautiful, man. Many wouldn't step up like you did. I read/heard it somewhere, Gary led the team in pressures this year but only had half of the snaps of the Smith bros. I don't know why he wasn't given more chances. I think he will have as much growth between years 2-3 as he had between 1-2. Preston has a dead money hit of $8 million if they release him after the season and a $16 million salary hit if they keep him. While they are both DE, Preston does things that Gary doesn't do such as drop back in coverage every once in a while. But that is next year. Let's get the Lombardi first.
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago

I’ve been hard on Gary since he was drafted so high.
I didn’t think much of him at Michigan and was shocked that the Packers drafted him in the first round. I never saw that coming.
I’m certainly happy to see him starting to live up to his draft status.
I apologize Rashan, keep up the good work!

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



/me fell out of chair.
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Mucky Tundra
4 years ago
I said in another thread that if Gary can develop some outside to inside pass rush moves the dude could be unblockable in pass rush situations and I stand by that. Another thing about Gary I've noticed is he seems to be a sure tackler in the run game. If Gary gets his hands on the ball carrier, they're wrapped up and going down.
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beast
4 years ago

I’ve been hard on Gary since he was drafted so high.
I didn’t think much of him at Michigan and was shocked that the Packers drafted him in the first round. I never saw that coming.
I’m certainly happy to see him starting to live up to his draft status.
I apologize Rashan, keep up the good work!

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 

My biggest question was why didn't he develop more in college? Same with OT Spriggs and CB Jackson, which normally turns me off of guys, and I had that same concern with Gary in the draft. Though after the draft, some interview talked about his learning disabilities, and college full time probably can be distracting in that aspect.

But he clearly has the potential to be a young Z. Smith, those has a lot of little things to learn, and might not learn some of the interior DL stuff Z learned while the Ravens used him in the inside, but he's got more pure speed than Z. (I think), but can't turn the corner as well, but if he learns to use the speed, power and hand fight well, he can be become very very good.

That's beautiful, man. Many wouldn't step up like you did. I read/heard it somewhere, Gary led the team in pressures this year but only had half of the snaps of the Smith bros. I don't know why he wasn't given more chances. I think he will have as much growth between years 2-3 as he had between 1-2. Preston has a dead money hit of $8 million if they release him after the season and a $16 million salary hit if they keep him. While they are both DE, Preston does things that Gary doesn't do such as drop back in coverage every once in a while. But that is next year. Let's get the Lombardi first.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I'm thinking the scheme calls for a versatile edge rusher, and that's where Preston comes in...

You can have Z and Gary on the field at the same time, but the offense clearly knowns they're both coming with physical pass rushers. Preston you can mix up a bit more. Plus just keep rotating them.

Gary gets to be the 3rd down pass rush specialist, some love that role.
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yooperfan
4 years ago

/me fell out of chair.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


I sincerely hope that you didn’t hurt yourself 😂

Mucky Tundra
4 years ago

I sincerely hope that you didn’t hurt yourself 😂

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



I hope he did! 🤣☠️

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4 years ago

My biggest question was why didn't he develop more in college? Same with OT Spriggs and CB Jackson, which normally turns me off of guys, and I had that same concern with Gary in the draft. Though after the draft, some interview talked about his learning disabilities, and college full time probably can be distracting in that aspect.

But he clearly has the potential to be a young Z. Smith, those has a lot of little things to learn, and might not learn some of the interior DL stuff Z learned while the Ravens used him in the inside, but he's got more pure speed than Z. (I think), but can't turn the corner as well, but if he learns to use the speed, power and hand fight well, he can be become very very good.



I'm thinking the scheme calls for a versatile edge rusher, and that's where Preston comes in...

You can have Z and Gary on the field at the same time, but the offense clearly knowns they're both coming with physical pass rushers. Preston you can mix up a bit more. Plus just keep rotating them.

Gary gets to be the 3rd down pass rush specialist, some love that role.

Originally Posted by: beast 



IIRC, Gary played out of position. He was playing either DE or DT and played more against the run. GB flipped him to OLB with his primary duty of rushing the passer. With a new position, system and responsibilities it is going to take him a while to get to a high level of proficiency.
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