nerdmann
6 years ago

Or maybe we can have the GM deal with all the high paid talent that don't live up to their paycheque. I find it funny that I see so much posting about how Aaron should free up cap space in order to win a Super Bowl while completely ignoring all the cap space of players like Matthews, Perry, Cobb and Bulaga who all play well below their worth in salaries.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



Everyone cried when he released Jordy.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
TheKanataThrilla
6 years ago

Everyone cried when he released Jordy.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



The one guy that they could have reduced his salary to a reasonable amount instead of asking him to take a vet minimum.

Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago
After the obscene amount of potential talent Gutekunst has brought in to replace Nelson, I would hope no one is still mourning his departure.
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DoddPower
6 years ago

If that happens, it’s because Aaron himself has sucked all the cap money out.

You gonna pay a guy to suck all the money out of your cap and then go elsewhere to a team that “still has a chance?”

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Teams can easily make this work for a season or two. With an old QB that comes off the books completely after that, it wouldn't be that big of a deal. Push a lot of the others players money into later years.
dhazer
6 years ago

Seems to be more likely to have a clause that triggers an adjustment (see: Raise) than an opt out. No way we let him ever become a free agent.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



Why not let him become a free agent when he is 38? He has 2 years left on his current contract and can be franchised twice. Teams do franchise star qbs like Drew Brees. Why give him a huge contract and strap our team so we won't make another Super Bowl, when we don't even know how his collar bones are going to hold up.


Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
reed
dhazer
6 years ago

After the obscene amount of potential talent Gutekunst has brought in to replace Nelson, I would hope no one is still mourning his departure.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



who did he bring in? A washed up old TE that hasn't done anything since he left NO and a bunch of rookies to replace Rodger's favorite wr.


Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
reed
Zero2Cool
6 years ago

who did he bring in? A washed up old TE that hasn't done anything since he left NO and a bunch of rookies to replace Rodger's favorite wr.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



-- Proven talent --
TE Jimmy Graham - only DeAndre Hopkins had more TD's than him last season.
TE Marcedes Lewis - considered one of the best blocking TE's in the NFL.


-- Unproven talent --
WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling HT: 6-5 WT: 209 40-yard dash: 4.37
WR Equanimeous St. Brown HT: 6-4 3/4 WT: 218 40-yard dash: 4.48
WR J'mon Moore HT: 6-2 5/8 WT: 207, 40-yard dash: 4.49


Lots of talent and it'll be up to Joe Philbin, Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers to maximize it.


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nerdmann
6 years ago

Why not let him become a free agent when he is 38? He has 2 years left on his current contract and can be franchised twice. Teams do franchise star qbs like Drew Brees. Why give him a huge contract and strap our team so we won't make another Super Bowl, when we don't even know how his collar bones are going to hold up.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



Let’s see if Rodgers’ body can still take the NFL level of pounding for a full season.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago
Joel Corry, a former agent, has some interesting things to say  about this topic over at CBS Sports. He says two nonstarters -- Chase Daniels and Nick Foles -- currently have opt-out clauses in their contracts, but both feature rather steep buyout prices. He believes that in order for Rodgers to get the opt-out he's seeking, he'd have to agree to pay a huge buyout, something he doesn't think Rodgers will be willing to do. (I agree with him.). He also mentions that Earl Bennett had an opt-out clause in his contract with the Bears back in 2011, but it would have cost him $20 million. Imagine how much Green Bay would demand from Rodgers!

Corry also makes a pretty compelling case that if Rodgers refuses to budge, it would be in Green Bay's best interest simply to ride out the next two years and then slap the exclusive-rights and franchise tags on him for the next two years. Ironically, as fast as quarterback salaries have risen in the past year or two, it would actually be cheaper for them to pay the tag penalty than to extend him a more lucrative offer sheet than the one Matt Ryan just signed.

Food for thought.
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nerdmann
6 years ago

Joel Corry, a former agent, has some interesting things to say  about this topic over at CBS Sports. He says two nonstarters -- Chase Daniels and Nick Foles -- currently have opt-out clauses in their contracts, but both feature rather steep buyout prices. He believes that in order for Rodgers to get the opt-out he's seeking, he'd have to agree to pay a huge buyout, something he doesn't think Rodgers will be willing to do. (I agree with him.). He also mentions that Earl Bennett had an opt-out clause in his contract with the Bears back in 2011, but it would have cost him $20 million. Imagine how much Green Bay would demand from Rodgers!

Corry also makes a pretty compelling case that if Rodgers refuses to budge, it would be in Green Bay's best interest simply to ride out the next two years and then slap the exclusive-rights and franchise tags on him for the next two years. Ironically, as fast as quarterback salaries have risen in the past year or two, it would actually be cheaper for them to pay the tag penalty than to extend him a more lucrative offer sheet than the one Matt Ryan just signed.

Food for thought.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



This is all about being the "highest paid player." THAT is what Aaron wants.

So here is the deal: WIN THE SUPERBOWL, and you get to be the highest paid player in league history. REPEAT, and be the highest paid plus an extra $5mill. THREEPEAT and everytime someone's contract gets higher than yours, it will be re-adjusted.

BOOM.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
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wpr (1h) : 7 days
Zero2Cool (22h) : sounds like Packers don't get good compensation, Jaire staying
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Trade, cut or keep
dfosterf (16-Apr) : that from Jaire
dfosterf (16-Apr) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.
dfosterf (16-Apr) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission
dfosterf (16-Apr) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : That someone ... likely the agent.
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"
dfosterf (16-Apr) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that
dfosterf (16-Apr) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers are receiving interest in Jaire Alexander but a trade is not imminent
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Jalen Ramsey wants to be traded. He's never happy is he?
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : two 1sts in 2022 and two 2nd's in 2023 and 2024
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers had fortunate last three drafts.
dfosterf (15-Apr) : I may have to move
dfosterf (15-Apr) : My wife just told the ancient Japanese sushi dude not enough rice under his fish
Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I think a dozen is what I need
dfosterf (14-Apr) : Go fund me for this purpose just might work. A dozen nurses show up at 1265 to provide mental health assistance.
dfosterf (14-Apr) : Maybe send a crew of Angels to the Packers draft room on draft day.
Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I am the Angel that gets visited.
dfosterf (14-Apr) : Visiting Angels has a pretty good reputation
Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : what
Martha Careful (14-Apr) : WINNING IT, not someone else losing it. The best victory though was re-uniting with his wife
Martha Careful (14-Apr) : The manner in which he won it was just amazing and wonderful. First blowing the lead then getting back, then blowing it. But ultimately
Zero2Cool (12-Apr) : I'm guessing since the thumb was broken, he wasn't feeling it.
dfosterf (10-Apr) : Looking for guidance. Not feeling the thumb.
Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : If they knew about it or not
Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : I don't recall that he did which is why I asked.
Zero2Cool (10-Apr) : Guessing they probably knew. Did he have cast or something on?
Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : Did they know that at the time or was that something the realized afterwards?
Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Van Ness played most of season with broken thumb
wpr (9-Apr) : yay
Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Mark Murphy says Steelers likely to protect Packers game. Meaning, no Ireland
Zero2Cool (8-Apr) : Struggling to figure out what text editor options are needed and which are 'nice to have'
Mucky Tundra (8-Apr) : *CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP*
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : WR who said he'd break Xavier Worthy 40 time...and ran slower than you
Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Who?
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Texas’ WR Isaiah Bond is scheduled to visit the Bills, Browns, Chiefs, Falcons, Packers and Titans starting next week.
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Spotting ball isn't changing, only measuring distance is, Which wasn't the issue.
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : The spotting of the ball IS the issue. Not the chain gang.
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