Committee: Kickoffs at risk if not made safer· Page 2

Smokey
Veteran Member

6 years ago

Here is yet another idea regarding Kickoffs.

1] Keep Kickoffs the same as now, but only for the game opener and to start the second Half.

2] Eliminate Kickoffs on all scoring plays and replace it with the following:
a) The team that is scored upon with a FG would get the football on the 20 yd line following the successful FG.
b) The team that is scored upon with a TD would get the football on the 10 yd line following the successful TD.

3] During the final 2 minutes of a game, the Kickoff would be in effect following any scoring play. It would also apply to overtime play as well.

This plan would keep the traditional Kickoff, but greatly lower the amount of them. In addition, helmet safety professionals will continue to try to create a !00% safe helmet and not just for football either. [smile]

gbguy20
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#12

I like the idea of to start each half. Then again after any score in the last 5 minutes.

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Smokey
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#13

As I have elected to not see anymore of gbguy20's post, (and I recommend it to all), reasonable post in this thread are invited. [smile]

gbguy20
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#14

And I'm the tool

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beast
Select Member

6 years ago

#15

I guess I am ready to put the ball at the 20 or 25 instead of having a kickoff return.

Originally Posted by: wpr

If we're just going to completely get rid of it, I say move the starting line back to the 20 yard line... too many rules are helping the offense already.

Also while we're at it, get rid of the stupid punt that happens after a defensive safety... and it's so incredibly stupid, the hardest way to score (defensive safety) is worth the least amount of points...

I think the defensive safety scoring team should get 10 points (or 7 at minimum), then the offensive that gave up the defensive safety should get the ball back at the 40 or 50... (heck if it's 10 points then maybe even at the other team's 40, to give them a shot at getting some of those points back). This would be SO much better than 2 points and a stupid kickoff punt.

It would be interesting to see the numbers on what the injuries are and what the rate of them is for Kick-offs. what about punts? If they take away kick offs, you are going to have an extra probably 10-12 regular plays, so there will be an increase of those injuries. And an increase pounding between Oline and Dline which is probably the place where the most look at brain injury needs to take place.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins

Yes it would be very nice to see a good statistical analysis

If kickoffs go through the endzone for a touch back... then does the clock even start?
If no, then there wouldn't be that many more plays per game, because they weren't taking time off the clock anyways.

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

#16

Originally Posted by: beast

The play (kickoff) occurs without running time off the clock. Guys are hitting each other as they work their way down field preparing to set up the return or defending against the possible return.

As far as fans not noticing the concussions, when it happens to the kickoff and ko return teams it doesn't get mentioned by the announcers very often unless it's an ESPN highlight type of play. No one might even notice until he is back on the sidelines and see his eyes spinning around. His unit might not even get back onto the field. If they do there is never an announcement that one special teams player is filling in for another one.

isocleas2
Member

6 years ago

#17

I like the idea of to start each half. Then again after any score in the last 5 minutes.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20

Not bad. Maybe have the team who scores in the last 5m be given the option to do a kickoff or not. Although I guess then it would tip the hat they want to do an onside kick.

The only real negative to getting rid of kickoffs is the onside kick conundrum, solve that and you can get rid of the play for all i care. For a long time they'd do the double commercial break around the kickoff which pissed me off, 8 minutes of commercials surrounding a 20 second play.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

6 years ago

#18

Saints were really helped winning their Super Bowl with that onsides kick. I believe its how they took the lead for the first time.

nerdmann
Premier Member

6 years ago

#19

Hell, just turn the NFL into flag football NOW and save the cute little adjustments and gnashing of teeth.
Football as we have known it will be dead in another decade anyway.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan

First of all, we should change the game to accomodate all 83 other genders. Turning the game into just sitting in a circle discussing our feelings would go a long way towards accomplishing this.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

nerdmann
Premier Member

6 years ago

#20

Originally Posted by: isocleas2

There was a suggestion where instead of kicking off, a team would have a 4th and 15 from the 30. That way, they would also have an option for an “onside kick” style play. But the main benefit would be punting, and having the contact come at the LoS.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

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