Ball’s Not Worth The Risk

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

Even though team president Mark Murphy hasn’t even begun his official search yet, all signs point to Vice President of Football Administration/Player Finance Russ Ball being named the 11th general manager in the history of the Green Bay Packers. And while this wouldn’t be a surprise — I wrote about the possibility two years agoContinue Reading››

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Michael Rodney wrote:

I can't say that his arguments are all that compelling.
If Ball is hired I hope there is a plan in place to evaluate talent. And I don't mean some guy who is down on the 3rd or 4th level of scouts. If he had more ability he would be ahead of Wolf and Gutekunst

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

7 years ago

Originally Posted by: wpr

I was listening to a few people talking about this that talk to those inside 1265. No one knows. The reason people are leaning towards Russ Ball is because Ball spends a lot of time with Mark Murphy. And he spends lots of time with Murphy because he's the negotiation finance guy. The feeling is the rumors are formed from an ant hill and spiraled from there out of peer speculation.

I got the strong feeling Russ Ball is not going to be the GM.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

7 years ago

Never wanted you to be more right about something.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

nerdmann
Premier Member

7 years ago

Originally Posted by: wpr

That’s why Ted is staying. He’s that “talent evaluator” guy.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

Barfarn
Senior Member

7 years ago

Risk....Schmisk

I expected one of the outsiders from Balt or NE. The greater risk is Wolf and Guntekist NOT working elsewhere before they GM in GB.

If one or both leave and Ball falls on his face; they'll be back if GB wants them!!!!

Zero I think you're wrong; Uffda got this part right. No one knows who Ball is. Suddenly, and out of nowhere Cohen, Silverstein and others has been given super access to write informative pieces on Ball. Puff pieces is not inaccurate, though I have never heard a bad word about Ball, so maybe the guy is destined for Sainthood.

This is a perfect example of how a corporation shapes the mind before issuing the news of a surprise President or CEO hire. If Ball wasn't the guy, Cohen would not have the access he does and Mike don't sign no 1 year deal.

Ball is coming! [I think!]

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

7 years ago

B and I on the same page? Oh, it's just gotta happen now. If not, I will never hitch my wagon to Barfarn again! :)

Thank you for echoing the point...there are Ball pieces all over. Ian Rapoport is defending Ball on Twitter. He didn't promote Wolf or Gutekunst, but here he is defending Ball? Why? Ian has been the best guy for Packers news on a national level. That access ain't free...the price is him doing things such as this. I truly believe he already knows who the GM will be but won't violate the edict from 1265 on when he can release it. Such a game with the media and organizations. It really is something to behold and I do wish everyone could really see for themselves how icky it can be.

The skids are being greased making this hire more palatable to the masses and most likely by the time the PR machine is done with the fanbase they'll be all fired up that Russ Ball is our guy. Funny how that works.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

nerdmann
Premier Member

7 years ago

Originally Posted by: Barfarn

And Ted doesn’t stick around as the “evaluator guy.”

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

7 years ago

Originally Posted by: Barfarn

Tom Silverstein and Michael Cohen were not given special access for the articles they wrote about Russ Ball. Tom was more speculation from what others observed, which I alluded to in my post in which you say I am wrong. Nothing they reported is special or unattainable by your average Joe. In fact, you yourself could call up agents or email them . I've done it in the past and I have no special access. The difference is people like Michael and Tom build rapports with the agents and scouts (whom you can also contact without special access) because it behooves their career so it comes easier for them to get.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

7 years ago

Originally Posted by: Barfarn

By the appearance of things, it looks like what I had heard may have been pretty accurate after all. I mean, who else was pounding the door down for Russ Ball as GM? I don't recall any teams requesting to interview him, or actually interviewing him for a GM position.

Additionally, today I was listening to another ESPN podcast where they were saying Russ Ball is kind of an ass kisser. The radio host all but confirmed that some inside 1265 would concur.

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