The Stats Lie

Only the 2nd time in NFL history that a game went without a punt.

Packers had seven drives, all of which ended with a score, except the blocked field goal of course.

Packers had the ball for just over 23 minutes.

Packers were out gained on the ground 56 yards to Bears 235 yards.

Bears were 63.6% on 3rd down conversions, Packers were just 50%.

Packers had 21 first downs to the Bears 33.

Packers had 47 plays to Bears 77 plays.


Yet, the Packers crush the Bears 38 to 17. [aiee]

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Turnovers involve some luck. A stout defensive line that can consistently stop the run doesn't (or at least less luck is involved).

I'm too lazy to look it up, but I don't know that the Packers' SB team allowed many 500+ yard games, and 2011 isn't really a barometer for success because it was the preview to the problem the Packers currently have with teams such as the Seahawks, 49ers, and now maybe even the Lions.

I'm wavering a lot on this defense. Anyone can lay an egg, we saw that with the 49ers at Seattle last November. I certainly don't have much confidence in this defense, but they've been all over the map and I still can't tell if the 2nd half Jets/Detroit defense is what to expect, or if the Bears/Seahawks is more what we should expect with this team.

Originally Posted by: musccy 

Absolutely. CM3s pick was luck on his part. I have said it before I have seen corners beaten or out of position get a pick because the QB was so bad they missed the open receiver by 5 feet or more.

Originally Posted by: wpr 

The actual catch may have involved some luck, but the actual reason for the interception, Tramon Williams play on the ball, was not.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 

Luck may not be the right word. Tramon did make a good play on the ball, but in order for Tramon to make that play, Cutler had to miss that he had inside coverage or throw an errant pass. It's not luck that Cutler threw a bad pass, but we were dependent on his error to enable the opportunity.

I know it's what everyone would say but I want a defense that can contain the edge, play their assignment, get off blocks, clog a gap, etc. not rely on the opponent "sh*tting themselves" as nerdmann would say.

Originally Posted by: musccy 

We need better defense, specifically, heat on the QB. We all know it, the rest is wishful thinking. We also know we just need to give Aaron just a little time. It has not been a tough equation, in theory. we need to get there in reality.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 

The actual catch may have involved some luck, but the actual reason for the interception, Tramon Williams play on the ball, was not.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 

The Stats Lie

Only the 2nd time in NFL history that a game went without a punt.

Packers had seven drives, all of which ended with a score, except the blocked field goal of course.

Packers had the ball for just over 23 minutes.

Packers were out gained on the ground 56 yards to Bears 235 yards.

Bears were 63.6% on 3rd down conversions, Packers were just 50%.

Packers had 21 first downs to the Bears 33.

Packers had 47 plays to Bears 77 plays.


Yet, the Packers crush the Bears 38 to 17. [aiee]

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I know that as well as anyone else. Backs do a graet job defending the pass and defect balls all the time. How many tipped/deflected balls are there every week around the NFL? Most fall to the ground. How many tipped balls fly 10-15 yards back towards the LOS that are caught by a LBer? Practically none. The degree of luck on this particular play was over the 75% level.

Originally Posted by: wpr